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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:57 pm

i will say it out loud, I WANT KAK MASSOUD TO HAVE TOTAL POWER OVER WK NOT "PYD" and full stop.
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PostAuthor: burnsss » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:14 pm

Right now PYD and syrian fascist regime have some kind of tacit agreement betwen themselves. When realities changes on the ground and assad loses power PYD will have no choice but to cooperate with other kurdish forces- Assad cant stay on power forever he is isolated and his finances are draining, It will not take long before russia sees no use in Assad any longer, the same applys to PYD. I cant blame PYD for their stance (Turkey gaining huge influence in a islamist cetrally controlled regime) but i think its wrong and will have to change in the future.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:26 pm

alan131210 wrote:i will say it out loud, I WANT KAK MASSOUD TO HAVE TOTAL POWER OVER WK NOT "PYD" and full stop.


It is not about what we want heval and trust me that will happen in the end , but we have to be diplomatic and patient if we want to avoid a civil war . Side lining PYD is wrong and that is what we are trying to emphasize here . PKK have a very long history in western Kurdistan and they had several camps there at a time where KRG and PDK had zero influence in the region . That is not going to change as fast as you think , but in the long run it will change due to people's trust in Barzani and the success he had in southern kurdistan .

Kurds fighting kurds over the power is NOT an option , so the only way left is dialogue and that is what KRG is doing .
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:29 pm

i never wanted PYD sidelined , in fact they have done that to KNC on the grounds, they dishonoured erbil agreements we all know this now i think i dont have to repeat it anymore, but its pyd that continuously doing things ALONE and their own way, and refusing anything good coming from KRG, how can KRG deal with them? and for how long ! :?
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:30 pm

burnsss wrote:Right now PYD and syrian fascist regime have some kind of tacit agreement betwen themselves. When realities changes on the ground and assad loses power PYD will have no choice but to cooperate with other kurdish forces- Assad cant stay on power forever he is isolated and his finances are draining, It will not take long before russia sees no use in Assad any longer, the same applys to PYD. I cant blame PYD for their stance (Turkey gaining huge influence in a islamist cetrally controlled regime) but i think its wrong and will have to change in the future.


Asad regime and PKK have a long history , but it is always been about mutual interests and nothing more . PYD is not trying to protect the regime and it is wrong to assume that . The syrian regime withdraw majority of their forces from the western kurdistan because they have bigger problems and Kurd did not rise against him , well at least not the way the arabs did .
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:38 pm

alan131210 wrote:i never wanted PYD sidelined , in fact they have done that to KNC on the grounds, they dishonoured erbil agreements we all know this now i think i dont have to repeat it anymore, but its pyd that continuously doing things ALONE and their own way, and refusing anything good coming from KRG, how can KRG deal with them? and for how long ! :?


Kak Alan , We do not know what is going to happen in the near or far future , but trust me when I tell you it is great to have PYD and you will be very proud and happy to have them one day .
Heval you do not know these guys . I lived among them for almost 2 years in western kurdistan and I can tell you that they are one of the most nationalist kurds you will ever meet , so Keep the faith and if there are problems we should not panic like that .
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:42 pm

i hope so heval but so far all i am getting from them is negative vibes .. but ill take your word for it .
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PostAuthor: burnsss » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:52 pm

Turkey is also demonizing PYD and spreading alot of propafanda and blackmailing krg and knc. Turkey should never be trusted regarding kurdish issues. We have to be carefull and not fall in the traps of our enemies who wants us to be divided and weak. Thats why turkey went to hysteria after kurdish cities were liberated and started their campaign of diving the newly united kurds.
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:56 pm

alan131210 wrote:i hope so heval but so far all i am getting from them is negative vibes .. but ill take your word for it .


These are internal issues heval and it will be resolved sooner or later . right now the more fighters we have the better . We have to remain united and put our differences aside because if the syrian army or the FSA try to enter Western kurdistan they will stand beside each others and fight together .

kurdistan belong to kurds not the political parties .
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:06 pm

burnsss wrote:Turkey is also demonizing PYD and spreading alot of propafanda and blackmailing krg and knc. Turkey should never be trusted regarding kurdish issues. We have to be carefull and not fall in the traps of our enemies who wants us to be divided and weak. Thats why turkey went to hysteria after kurdish cities were liberated and started their campaign of diving the newly united kurds.


That is what I was trying to point out . NO ONE is saying that KRG and KNC are working for turkey . Certainly not ,but turkey will try everything it can to push them against PYD and that is what we should try to avoid . They are our brothers and sisters despite our differences and I would not sale one member of PYD for a million turks .
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Humiliated by his son!

PostAuthor: brendar » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:21 pm

Guys, we all remember the arour guy who threatened the kurds in rojava.

Listen to what his child tells his dad on live TV: If you understand arabic then watch the video =))


"I am not with him anymore because if he becomes the president of this country, there will be no food and no drink. He is sitting on his chair and calling for people in Hama and daraa to go and fight the syrian regime, by saying: GO KILL THEM, GO TORTURE THEM. How can we win against assad if you are sitting on a chair and shouting to others to go and fight?

A man has to go to fight by himself first, not sat on a chair shouting to muslims about the situation in syria." This is from a ten year old kid !

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PostAuthor: brendar » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:30 pm

Guys, this is another arab guy from the syrian party who said there are just a few hunderds of kurds in syria and no more. He also threatened the kurds in rojava about raising the kurdish flag. The interesting part of this is that he told the kurds in rojava to raise the new syrian revolutionary flag. But as you can see the flag that he told the kurds to raise, is raised upside down at the back on the curtains. However, look at what he eats in a time where half of syrian people are dying!

These terrorists will rule syria after the assda regime! :-w

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PostAuthor: brendar » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:36 pm

Quotation from French Kurdologist Pierre Rondot (b. 1904) resonates with the Kurdish street of today.

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:56 pm

Syrian National Council and Syrian Kurdish National Council sign agreement

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ERBIL, August 5 (AKnews) – The Syrian National Council and Syrian Kurdish National Council have signed a four-point agreement, which includes a section on power sharing after the fall of President Basher Assad's regime.

Late last night in a meeting both councils discussed the current Syrian situation and life after the regime. The Kuridsh Council was head by head of the council’s foreign relations Bashar al-Hakeem and the Syrian Council was headed by Abdul Basit Saeda.

But the Kurdish National Council is still concerned about the Syrian National Council recognizing the rights of Kurds in the country, mentioned the anonymous source.

Kurdistan Democratic Union politburo member Mahmoud Mohammed confirmed that one of the crucial points is ruling Syria together after the collapse of Assad's regime.

Kurds in Syria have land and language and they deserve a better life, added the member.
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PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:59 pm

contracts with arabs are worthless.
you can see in iraq how they hurt the constitution every day

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