Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

[brendar]

Arabs are killing and torturing Amazigh everyday.

[Kurdistano]

what does the paper say.

[talsor]

what does the paper say.

It is a popular newspaper called Middle East published in London that describes Barzani as being "Wiseman of Iraq '"

[alan131210]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jOt0edE ... _embedded#!

PYD is already threatening KNC saying "we only accept YPG and reject any other armed forced".

the trained Kurdish soldiers should be sent in today by KRG to take over the security gap in WK and let these guys join "Western kurdistan Peshmerga forces" i just hope they dont refuse.

[Kurdistano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jOt0edEO_0&feature=player_embedded#!

PYD is already threatening KNC saying "we only accept YPG and reject any other armed forced".

the trained Kurdish soldiers should be sent in today by KRG to take over the security gap in WK and let these guys join "Western kurdistan Peshmerga forces" i just hope they dont refuse.

The Guys speak Kurmanji I havent heard any one of them saying something like we wount let in any other "Kurdish" armed forces but nothing about not letting in Kurdish forces. Yet these are just Teenagers and not the PYD leadership.

[alan131210]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jOt0edEO_0&feature=player_embedded#!

PYD is already threatening KNC saying "we only accept YPG and reject any other armed forced".

the trained Kurdish soldiers should be sent in today by KRG to take over the security gap in WK and let these guys join "Western kurdistan Peshmerga forces" i just hope they dont refuse.

The Guys speak Kurmanji I havent heard any one of them saying something like we wount let in any other "Kurdish" armed forces but nothing about not letting in Kurdish forces. Yet these are just Teenagers and not the PYD leadership.

you understand kurmanji but seems your sorani is weak.

at 2:00 the presenter says "regarding the kurdish forces who number 650 that got trained in KRG whether they will be returning home and taking care of security in WK"

in response the PYD armed member says at 2:37 "under YPG we only allow armed groups but outside of it we will never allow it" i am not a turk ya know

and teenager or not he has been programmed to say that and PYD practically refused the trained soldiers in KRG to enter WK .

if WK continues this way and PYD refuses anything KNC's then WK will never get any outside support it needs for an entity under PYD and their armed groups, stop sticking up for them bcoz it will never happen.

the only way WK will get an entity and support is thru KNC without them PYD will achieve nothing it will just turn out to be another "Tuareg"

[Kurdistano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jOt0edEO_0&feature=player_embedded#!

PYD is already threatening KNC saying "we only accept YPG and reject any other armed forced".

the trained Kurdish soldiers should be sent in today by KRG to take over the security gap in WK and let these guys join "Western kurdistan Peshmerga forces" i just hope they dont refuse.

The Guys speak Kurmanji I havent heard any one of them saying something like we wount let in any other "Kurdish" armed forces but nothing about not letting in Kurdish forces. Yet these are just Teenagers and not the PYD leadership.

you understand kurmanji but seems your sorani is weak.

at 2:00 the presenter says "regarding the kurdish forces who number 650 that got trained in KRG returning home and taking care of security in WK"

in response the PYD armed member says at 2:37 "under YPG we only allow armed groups but outside of it we will never allow it" i am not a turk ya know

and teenager or not he has been programmed to say that and PYD practically refused the trained soldiers in KRG to enter WK .

if WK continues this way and PYD refuses anything KNC's then WK will never get any outside support it needs for an entity under PYD and their armed groups, stop sticking up for them bcoz it will never happen.

These are just kids and as far as I dont hear similar things from the Leadership I dont care. Instead of trying to make PYD bad everywhere you can you should start to find more common things between PYD and KNC. It almost seems like you feel turned on by every negative news about PYD. I am not a PYD supporter yet I see that they are making progresses like in distancing themselves from PKK and trying to build up some contact to Turkey.

But of course if PYD refuses to let in Peshmerga which is part of the agreement this will bite them in the ass extremely.

[alan131210]

heval, it is not the Q of "if" they are refusing to let the Peshmerga in, it is the matter of "they did".

KNC seveal members on Rudaw said it already happen, they already took down Kurdistan flag and replaced it with an "unknown" flag.

they already have formed their own armed groups .

they already refused WK trained soldiers to enter WK from SK. !!!

i was not against PYD at the start actually but as soon as i saw them doing things their own way i was worried that my WK will never get an entity , that my WK will turn out to be another "Tuareg" we saw been declared and no one recognize it and nothing more, under the supreme council it is possible but if this is how they think and will continue to think then PYD will actually make things worse, there is a saying and one of SK ruling high rank party member said after the collapse of kurdish struggle in 1974 "if i can not do the struggle myself, i will disallow it from the others as well".

this my friend is what i am scared of.

[talsor]

PYD have a bad relation with turkey . KNC and KRG have good relation with turkey . So why is it hard for you guys to understand why PYD is refusing the entry of Peshmerga trained in KRG into their areas ? Can you guarantee that they are not infiltrated by Turkish agents ? Turkey is working hard to make the connection between PKK and PYD in order to interfere in western Kurdistan , so why give them a reason ?. There is plenty of areas that KNC pershmegas can control and protect , but KNC is trying to make an issue out of nothing .

[brendar]

heval, it is not the Q of "if" they are refusing to let the Peshmerga in, it is the matter of "they did".

KNC seveal members on Rudaw said it already happen, they already took down Kurdistan flag and replaced it with an "unknown" flag.

they already have formed their own armed groups .

they already refused WK trained soldiers to enter WK from SK. !!!

i was not against PYD at the start actually but as soon as i saw them doing things their own way i was worried that my WK will never get an entity , that my WK will turn out to be another "Tuareg" we saw been declared and no one recognize it and nothing more, under the supreme council it is possible but if this is how they think and will continue to think then PYD will actually make things worse, there is a saying and one of SK ruling high rank party member said after the collapse of kurdish struggle in 1974 "if i can not do the struggle myself, i will disallow it from the others as well".

this my friend is what i am scared of.

Kak alan, Kurds have never been together. Our leaders have never agreed with each other. They have always been traitors. We have never been united and never will. There has to be a "brakuji" war in WK same as the kurds did in SK. This is how we have learned and will never change.

What is so hard to be united under Kurdistan banner? Seriously, at the beginning i had so much hope, but now i see no hope & no future in WK.

[Kurdistano]

PYD have a bad relation with turkey . KNC and KRG have good relation with turkey . So why is it hard for you guys to understand why PYD is refusing the entry of Peshmerga trained in KRG into their areas ? Can you guarantee that they are not infiltrated by Turkish agents ? Turkey is working hard to make the connection between PKK and PYD in order to interfere in western Kurdistan , so why give them a reason ?. There is plenty of areas that KNC pershmegas can control and protect , but KNC is trying to make an issue out of nothing .

Though I am not the same opinion as Alan yet I agree in one point. PYD has to let Peshmerga move in. What kind of excuse is that " We fear Turkish agents among Peshmerga" as if it wouldnt be easy for Turkey to smuggle their agents into the PYD just like they did several times with the PKK in the past.


PYD should the Peshmerga move in since they are only there to protect the area. What can the PYD fighters do to protect the area if an Army like the Syrian or Turkish would attack?

[brendar]

Under the banner "Peshmerga and Gurella are ONE ARMY", morethan 100,000 kurds protested in Qamishlo yesterday night.



http://rudaw.net/kurdish/index.php/rojava/16156.html

[brendar]

PYD have a bad relation with turkey . KNC and KRG have good relation with turkey . So why is it hard for you guys to understand why PYD is refusing the entry of Peshmerga trained in KRG into their areas ? Can you guarantee that they are not infiltrated by Turkish agents ? Turkey is working hard to make the connection between PKK and PYD in order to interfere in western Kurdistan , so why give them a reason ?. There is plenty of areas that KNC pershmegas can control and protect , but KNC is trying to make an issue out of nothing .

Though I am not the same opinion as Alan yet I agree in one point. PYD has to let Peshmerga move in. What kind of excuse is that " We fear Turkish agents among Peshmerga" as if it wouldnt be easy for Turkey to smuggle their agents into the PYD just like they did several times with the PKK in the past.


PYD should the Peshmerga move in since they are only there to protect the area. What can the PYD fighters do to protect the area if an Army like the Syrian or Turkish would attack?

Those peshmerga are from Western Kurdistan. I cannot figure out what PYD is up to! Let see what happens in a few days. However, an organised force needs to be there at the moment because nothing will be achieved with small group of young people and a few check points.

[talsor]

do not lose hope guys , I'm 100% sure that they will come to an understanding . Remember the whole kurdistan is watching developments and no one wants to look bad .

[kardox]

I don't know if this has been posted , there is a lot of useful info about WK.

http://www.kurdnas.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=488:will-there-be-room-for-kurds-and-other-minorities-in-a-post-assad-syria&catid=34:kurdnas&Itemid=53