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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:08 pm

Turkish Foreign Minister Urges Barzani to Contain PKK Activities in Syria

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PostAuthor: talsor » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:14 pm

alan131210 wrote:Urgent: "turkish FM met with KNC and SNC without PYD in Erbil just few hours ago"


is there a source for that heval ?

Rudaw published a really bad article few days ago quoting KNC leader saying really bad things about PYD .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:29 pm

yes i put it in WK mega thread :?
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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:12 pm

alan131210 wrote:Turkish Foreign Minister Urges Barzani to Contain PKK Activities in Syria

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He will, yet PYD is not PKK. Barzani will just tell PYD to distant themselves from PKK, what they already did.

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:22 pm

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alan131210 wrote:Turkish Foreign Minister Urges Barzani to Contain PKK Activities in Syria

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He will, yet PYD is not PKK. Barzani will just tell PYD to distant themselves from PKK, what they already did.


i dont think so, as they did not attend the meeting of Oglu KNC SNC.

the difference with WK and SK is that there is no Qandil in WK so the partizan war will not work in WK, and pkk must lay off till kurds get an autonomy then just like SK they can start their activities.
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The Kurds Hedging their Syrian bets‎

PostAuthor: brendar » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:35 pm

By belatedly joining the rebels, Syria’s Kurds are playing a canny game.

IN THE Arabic dialects of Iraq and Syria, a man who is unreasonably stubborn is said to have the mind of a Kurd. Perhaps such hardheadedness explains how the Kurds, buffeted for centuries between Persian, Arab, Turkish and Russian empires, have sustained a proud sense of nationhood. It may also explain why Syria’s 3m-odd Kurds, despite suffering more than other minorities during 40 years of rule by the Assad clan, are only now, and hesitantly, joining the fight to overthrow it.

As battles have raged elsewhere, a string of Kurdish-majority towns in Syria’s hitherto relatively peaceful north-east have quietly seen local authority seized from the central government in Damascus. Kurdish activists now occupy most state institutions there, including police stations, and have set up road blocks in a swathe of territory along the frontier with Turkey.

Their autonomy is far from complete. Government forces still hold the bigger cities of Kamishli and Hasaka, as well as airports and main roads. But the boldness of the takeover and the apparent complicity, however reluctant, of the Syrian authorities, carry implications that stretch beyond Syria’s borders.

Tensions in Turkey’s Kurdish-dominated south-east had diminished in recent years, with Kurds welcoming a more receptive response to demands for national rights, while the Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq sometimes restricts PKK access to its own rugged Turkish borderlands. But troubles have brewed anew as Turkey’s mildly Islamist ruling AK party has emphasised Turkish nationalism. After a spring lull, scores of Turkish soldiers have been killed in PKK attacks. Turkish leaders say bluntly that they will not tolerate Syria again becoming a staging post for PKK operations, and have sent reinforcements to the border.

Turkey also sent its foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, to parley with Masoud Barzani, president of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region. Economically buoyant and politically secure, Iraq’s 5m Kurds have wielded growing influence in what they call Western Kurdistan—Syria’s flat, thinly-populated north-east. In early July, Mr Barzani himself brokered a deal whereby the PYD agreed to share power with a coalition of smaller Syrian Kurdish parties, the Kurdish National Council. At least on paper, this has ended years of nasty bickering between myriad Syrian Kurdish factions, and paved the way for their recent joint takeover of local government.

Syria’s Kurds are less geographically concentrated than their Iraqi brethren, with perhaps a majority now living in the main cities of Damascus and Aleppo. Decades of divide-and-rule tactics by the central government, which long denied basic citizenship to hundreds of thousands of Kurds, have exacerbated tribal, linguistic and religious divisions.

Factionalism has only intensified as Syria drifted into civil war. Some Kurdish groups opted to co-operate with the broader Syrian opposition. The ruthless and highly disciplined PYD accused them of being either dupes of Arab nationalists or pawns of the Turks. Its rivals whispered that the PYD was being empowered by Syria’s intelligence service as a prod against Turkey; hence, the theory goes, the surprising willingness of government officials to hand over local power. Partly as a result, the Kurds have until now failed to respond to pleas from other rebel groups to throw their weight behind the uprising.

But there is another reason for Kurdish reticence. To the extreme annoyance of Mr Assad’s other enemies, Syria’s fractious Kurds have united in driving a hard bargain. In return for joining the fight, they want ironclad guarantees that in a future Syria, their national rights will be respected in full. By quietly assuming local authority, they are hedging their bets. In the unlikely event that Mr Assad survives, he will owe them a favour for staying out of the fight. Should he lose, his successors will inherit a de facto Kurdish autonomous region much like Iraq’s.

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Gali kurdistan - Talking about West Kurdistan peshmerga

PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:39 am

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: kardox » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:30 am

Kurdistan has reached to the Sea..

This is the title of an article in netkurd.com.
They quote the Israeli Haartez newspaper. You can read it bellow in Kurmanji, someone (ALLAN? :-D ) could maybe find the original article?

'Kurdistan gihişt deryayê'
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Aktuelbûn: 2012-08-03 11:22:21

Rojnameya Haaretz a îsraîlî nivîsandiye ku, pêşveçûnên van dawiyan ên Rojhilata Navîn dê xerîteya stratejîk a herêmê ji nû ve pêk bîne û di merkeza vê de jî Kurdistana ku 'digihije deryayê' heye.



Rojnameya Haaretz a îsraîlî nivîsandiye ku, pêşveçûnên van dawiyan ên Rojhilata Navîn dê xerîteya stratejîk a herêmê ji nû ve pêk bîne û di merkeza vê de jî Kurdistana ku “digihije deryayê” heye.

Nivîsa ji aliyê Prof. Ofra Bergio ya seroka Programa Kurd di Zanîngeha Tel Avivê de hatiye nivîsandin û tê gotin ku bi pêşveçûnên Başûrê Rojavayê Kurdistanê kurdan bi kevirekî du teyran xist. Ew dibêje ku, kurdan di bazara bi Şamê re pozîsyoneke baş bi dest xistin, li hemberê muxalefeta Sûriyê destê xwe xurt kirin, Tirkiyê di derbarê kurdên di nav sinorên wê de mesaj dan û bi rêvebiriya Kurdistana Başûr re jî nêzikahiyê pêk anîn û Bengio nivîsa xwe didomîne û dibêje ev pêşveçûnên han di netîceyê de kurdan bigihîne Deryaya Spî bi xwe re bîne.

Bengio dibêje ku ew 400 kîlomêtro sinorên Tirkiyê yên bi Kurdistana Başûr re niha tê bigihîje 800 kîlomêtroyan û ev rewş jî Tirkiyê dike nav qilqilê (endîşe).

Bengio nivîsa xwe bi vî awayî didomîne û dibêje: dê ev ew sinorên di Şerê Cîhanê yê Yekê de ji aliyê hêzên serdest ên bi serkevtî ve hatibûn çêkirin bi kurdan bide ji bîr kirin û dê vê şansa firseta ku ketiye destan bikar bîne. Bengio binê wê xêz dike ku di nav vê şansê de vebûna Kurdistanê li Deryaya Spî heye.


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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:58 am

US democrats have agreed to turn all 4 kurdistan parts into federal regions then reunite them

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:09 pm

Kardox, this is the original article:

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/kurdista ... m-1.455675
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PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:11 pm

alan131210 wrote:US democrats have agreed to turn all 4 kurdistan parts into federal regions then reunite them

http://rudaw.net/kurdish/index.php/news/16085.html


I think this is the best solution. It will be very convenient and avoids war.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:22 pm

"we want federalism"
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:42 pm

Collapse of Economy and Social Services Adding to Plight of Syrian Kurds

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region -- High prices and unemployment, compounded by the current situation in Syria, have added to the suffering in the country and forced young Syrian Kurds to Iraqi Kurdistan to find a job.

Despite the withdrawal of the Syrian army from Kurdish cities, the regime is still paying the salaries of government employees in these cities. Kurdish political leaders are preparing for when financial aid from the Syrian government stops.

The Kurdish cities in Syria have weak economies due to lack of investments and the chauvinistic policies of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. With the beginning of the Syrian uprising 17 months ago, the agricultural economy of Kurdish cities plummeted and the price of gas and oil quadrupled. Sixty percent of agricultural lands in the Kurdish regions of Syria have not been planted due to the lack of gasoline.

Before the revolution began in Syria, the price of one barrel of kerosene was $45. Now, one barrel is $170 and one canister of liquid gas is $25 instead of $4.

Fawaz Muslim, a resident of the Kurdish city Kobane in Syria, has fled to Iraqi Kurdistan. He said, "Those who planted grains could not water their fields due to the high price of gas and lost their crops."

Muslim also noted an increase in the price of food, saying that a sack of sugar that used to cost $23 is now $55.

"It is even more difficult to find a job at the moment, and many young people are heading towards the Kurdistan Region to find jobs," he said, adding that the daily pay of a construction worker in Syria is $3.50, but even that is hard to come by.

Abdo Ali, 46, is from a village outside Kobane and has four children. He has been staying for several months in the Kurdistan Region in order to provide for his family. "We have many acres of agricultural land but cannot plant anything due to the bad situation,” he said.

Ali added, “Every month I send around $400 to my wife to cover the daily necessities for our family."

Besides the Kurdish areas of Syria, many Kurds reside in Aleppo – around 700,000, according to unofficial statistics. Many Kurds adopted handicrafts such as embroidery, shoemaking and construction to make a living here, but now find themselves without a job.

Wijdat Ghani Osman, 28, left Aleppo 10 days ago for Kurdistan. He said, "The majority of the Kurds in Aleppo are not government employees. Their lives depend on what they make on a daily basis and most of them are now left without a job."

Young Kurds who used to live in the Aleppo neighborhoods of Ashrafiya and Sheikh Maqsud have left the country for Lebanon, Turkey and the Kurdistan Region.

Ali said that an unknown group is using the name of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) to kidnap Kurds in Aleppo, releasing them after demanding a ransom from their families.

"One of my cousins was returning to Aleppo from Damascus. He was abducted by a group of gunmen who claimed to be members of FSA. They released him after extracting $5,000 from his family," said Ali.

Nasrin Ibrahim, a member of the Kurdish Supreme Committee and Democratic Union Party (PYD), believes the situation in the Kurdish regions is much better than in the rest of Syria.

However, he says, "We cannot form our own administration without a security and administrative vacuum … We cannot take the place of the government while Assad is still paying the salaries.”

“We will make preparations for a complete withdrawal of the government," Ibrahim says, adding that the new Kurdish administration will form committees for social services, defense, security and the economy.

Another problem facing the Kurdish regions in Syria is the influx of Kurds from Damascus and other cities.

Ibrahim says, "The committee that helps Kurdish refugees is in charge. The Red Crescent is also helping them but most of the refugees are coming from outside the Kurdish regions.”

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:02 pm

Dr.Barham salih meeting with abdelbaseet sayda and Kurdish supreme council members.

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