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The battle for control in Syria

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:55 pm

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Maryam Ishani and Connor Molloy / July 21, 2012 /

As the battle for the capital is underway Syria’s Kurds have emerged as the factor that tipped the scales

There are many moving parts in Syria right now. In the last week, some of the highest ranking officers of Al-Assad’s government have either defected or met a bloody end. Rumours continue to circulate that Bashar Al-Assad has been hurt as well as his brother Maher, or neither, or both had been killed.

The rumours indicate the vulnerable nature that Al-Assad’s continued rule is in. The rebels are closing in, appearing to almost gain strength as they gain ground, despite months of pummeling in Homs and Deraa. There is a rapid deterioration and it seems to have coincided with the increased involvement of Syria’s Kurds.

Syrian Kurds have emerged as the tipping point in the conflict on Syria. It is not surprising that the four-border straddling, yet stateless, ethnic group has emerged as the group able to ride the chaos in Syria to a new plateau for their regional influence.

Damascus, below them, appears to be coming apart at the seams. Months before rebels came pounding at the doors of Al-Assad and his regime henchmen in Damascus with remote detonators, Al-Assad was getting nervous over the two million or so Kurds on his border with Turkey.

Thinking he could ally his Kurds with the Kurds in Turkey against Erdogan last month after the two nations reached a standoff over the shooting of a Turkish jet by Syrian border defenses, he attempted to lure them to his side with promises of citizenship, but failed.

Al-Assad underestimated that after the group’s experiences with regional authorities in Turkey and Iraq, they may be averse to having regional masters of any kind.

Indeed, the fluid Kurdish relationships across four contentious borders is a situation that is tough to control by four of the region’s largest armies. Iran, Turkey and Syria, have all given relative border autonomy to the Kurds living on their shared borders and Iraq has given almost all.

The Iraqi Kurds have the greatest autonomy with two of the most powerful Kurds in the region, Jalal Talabani and Massoud Barzani entrenched in powerful positions and surrounded by effective fighting forces.

Last month, the leader of the Kurdish Freedom (Azadi) Party in Syria and member of the Kurdish National Council (KNC), Mustafa Juma, was detained at a checkpoint at the Syrian-Iraqi border. Juma was charged with intending to handover sensitive information about Syria’s pro-Assad People’s Protection Committee (PPC), the armed wing of the pro-Assad Democratic Union Party (PYD) to the Turkish consulate in Iraq.

That detention signaled that the Kurds were quietly playing their own long-game against a backdrop of chaos in Homs and Damascus. The importance their role could play in tipping the scales against Al-Assad was made apparent in last month’s meeting between Syria’s opposition members in Cairo.

After bickering broke out over disparate goals and positions members of the Kurdish delegation stood up and began to walk out, disgusted by the mess. However, the shoving and pushing to keep them there resulted in an all-out brawl.

Allegedly one of the major points of disagreement at the meeting was the decision to authorise a committee to act as the public face of the much splintered opposition, according to opposition leader Haitham Al-Manah in an interview with Reuters.

And for the Kurds, regional masters of any kind, were again out of the question. Morshed Mashouk, a senior member of the Kurdish delegation told Reuters, “we will not return to the conference and that is our final line. We are a people as we have language and religion and that is what defines a people.”

So it should have been no surprise then that a Syrian Kurd from the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), Abdelbaset Sieda, was within a month appointed the new head of the Syrian National Committee (SNC), the de facto leadership of the fractured opposition has always been eager to keep its place at the head of the table. Sieda’s KDP is allied with the larger KDP party which finds it head in Iraq under the leadership of the near patron saint of Kurds, Massoud Barzani.

Within two weeks of Sieda’s appointment, the effect of their support is apparent. On Friday, Kurdish militias seized control of a string of towns in northern Syria, and Saturday 650 defected Syrian soldiers were said to have taken control of Al-Malikiyah.

Wladimir van Wilgenberg, who is a writer and analyst focusing on the Kurdish situation, said there are widespread rumors that this group of soldiers is headed to take control of Qamishli. Qamishli is the largest city in Kurdish Syria, and has not yet been wrested from Syrian control.

Van Wilgenburg gave two reasons for the recent Kurdish offensive. “It is the new unity created by the Erbil agreement,” referring to a conference held by Massoud Barzani, President of Kurdish Iraq in which he managed to bring together rival factions of the Kurdish National Councils (KNC) and the Democratic Union Party (PYD), giving birth to the YPG or People’s Defense Alliance.

Hazal Ates wrote about the meeting for Al-Monitor and stated, “the Syrian Kurds decided to take a unified stand against Assad, set up a Supreme Kurdish Council and form ‘popular defense forces’ to control the region.”

Since that meeting the newly empowered YPG has taken control of many Kurdish majority cities. Van Wilgenburg writes that, “So far Kobanî, Efrîn, Cinderîs, Şêx Hedîd and Amûdê are under Kurdish control.”

In an interview with Daily News Egypt he added a second factor to explain the recent timing and success of the Kurdish operations, “Assad is militarily weakening.”

Ravaged by heavy fighting in Damascus and fears of low-ranking army defection, Assad’s forces have been thinned out and face restraints on how many men they can commit to respond to the Kurdish advance.

In addition to the problems the Kurds are causing Assad’s crumbling state, they also put Turkey in an awkward position. While Turkey stood firmly against Assad’s crackdown on protesters, it also does not want to see Syrian Kurds carve out an area autonomous enough to allow the Kurdish People’s Party (PKK) to operate within. The PKK has waged a decades long war against the Turkish state and a safe haven in Syria would give them a huge boost, much like they received when they began executing attacks out of northern Iraq.

Van Wilgenburg said the Kurds won’t adandone their recent successes for the status quo.

“They will not go away. Their aim is to create something similar to KRG,” said van Wilgenburg referring to the the semi-autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in Northern Iraq.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:59 pm

GIRÊDANEK ORGANÎK YA ME BI PKK’Ê RE TUNE YE

Serokê PYD’ê îdîayên ku PKK li Rojavayê Kurdistanê ye jî derewandin û aşkera kir ku, “Teqez tune ye. Tu têkiliyekî organîk yê me bi PKK’ê re tune ye.”

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: diako_ber » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:59 pm

On twitter they're saying that Assad forces are heading to aleppo and qamishli in order to regain full control of them. They're also saying that conflicts are expected tonight
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:01 pm

How #Kurds have ORGANIZED themselves & liberated the territories they inhabit is a model to follow. #TwitterKurds #Syria
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:05 pm

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a boy carrying a kurdish flag at the protest organised by PYD.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:43 pm

Why is the Kurdish media coverage in Western Kurdistan so Weak ? Aside from regular report of the news there is nothing which is very strange . I mean Western Kurdistan is being liberated after decades of oppression and injustice and that is the best they can do ? hell even the arab channels are covering the kurdish conflict better .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:49 pm

apparently we dont want to upset turkey
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:55 pm

The coverage reminds me of the VIVA World cup in kurdistan :D Seriously, the kurds in the west must be really sleeping or maybe busy on facebook.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:33 pm

talsor wrote:Why is the Kurdish media coverage in Western Kurdistan so Weak ?


I think it is because many Kurds dont have much hope for west Kurdistan. They believe it will be like 1980 in east Kurdistan and not like 1991 in south Kurdistan.

We can only wait to see what will happen. But the Kurds in west Kurdistan should never give up, because they have nothing to lose.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:55 pm

Cewlik wrote:
talsor wrote:Why is the Kurdish media coverage in Western Kurdistan so Weak ?


I think it is because many Kurds dont have much hope for west Kurdistan. They believe it will be like 1980 in east Kurdistan and not like 1991 in south Kurdistan.

We can only wait to see what will happen. But the Kurds in west Kurdistan should never give up, because they have nothing to lose.


Why would they think that way? The syrian regime will fall soon and that country will be in complete disorder and confusion for the next 10 or 20 years just like iraq. So, that will be a "Du Shash" for the kurds in the west to do whatever the want! Also, we will soon see the iranian regime fall. The middle east map has to be redrawn again.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:09 pm

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Cewlik wrote:
talsor wrote:Why is the Kurdish media coverage in Western Kurdistan so Weak ?


I think it is because many Kurds dont have much hope for west Kurdistan. They believe it will be like 1980 in east Kurdistan and not like 1991 in south Kurdistan.

We can only wait to see what will happen. But the Kurds in west Kurdistan should never give up, because they have nothing to lose.


Why would they think that way? The syrian regime will fall soon and that country will be in complete disorder and confusion for the next 10 or 20 years just like iraq. So, that will be a "Du Shash" for the kurds in the west to do whatever the want! Also, we will soon see the iranian regime fall. The middle east map has to be redrawn again.

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That is what I'm thinking and Kurds everywhere should be celebrating and offering support to our brothers in the West after decades of oppression , but the Kurdish media outlets especially in the south is serving the news like a cold tea with no sugar .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Cewlik wrote:
talsor wrote:Why is the Kurdish media coverage in Western Kurdistan so Weak ?


I think it is because many Kurds dont have much hope for west Kurdistan. They believe it will be like 1980 in east Kurdistan and not like 1991 in south Kurdistan.

We can only wait to see what will happen. But the Kurds in west Kurdistan should never give up, because they have nothing to lose.


Why not ? What better opportunity could Kurds in the west ever have ? The system is breaking down and the country is on fire .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:03 pm

Cewlik wrote:GIRÊDANEK ORGANÎK YA ME BI PKK’Ê RE TUNE YE

Serokê PYD’ê îdîayên ku PKK li Rojavayê Kurdistanê ye jî derewandin û aşkera kir ku, “Teqez tune ye. Tu têkiliyekî organîk yê me bi PKK’ê re tune ye.”

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So the leader of PYD commented about the rumors that PKK is taking ground in West Kurdistan with "There are no PKK members in West Kurdistan and we (PYD) and PKK are not one and the same." If I am not wrong.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:24 pm

Kurdistano wrote:
Cewlik wrote:GIRÊDANEK ORGANÎK YA ME BI PKK’Ê RE TUNE YE

Serokê PYD’ê îdîayên ku PKK li Rojavayê Kurdistanê ye jî derewandin û aşkera kir ku, “Teqez tune ye. Tu têkiliyekî organîk yê me bi PKK’ê re tune ye.”

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So the leader of PYD commented about the rumors that PKK is taking ground in West Kurdistan with "There are no PKK members in West Kurdistan and we (PYD) and PKK are not one and the same." If I am not wrong.


Exactly, the PYD leader Salih Müslim say that. Its better for the PYD to distance themselves from the PKK, because they need International support and as a part of the PKK they will not get that.
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