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Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
The Time for Kurdistan Region of Syria Has Come
Author: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:55 pm
The Kurdistan Region of Syria? Yes, it is possible. Now is the time to decalre it.
Today, the Kurds of Syria are in a position to be a strong player in the new Syria and the Middle East. But this depends a great deal on their Kurdish neighbors and co-fighters – namely, the KDP and PKK.
The events of the past week have opened up a new horizon for the Kurds in the Middle East in general and the Kurds of Syria in particular. The liberation of the Kurdish cities of Syria presents a new kind of challenge for the Kurds of Syria.
At times like these, creative thinking could change the course of history and secure a better future. Given the developments in the other parts of Syria and the conflict between the Assad regime and the opposition, the leadership of Syrian Kurds could steer things in a different direction.
Although the conflict is now between the regime’s army and the free Syrian army, it will eventually take the shape of a Sunni-Alawite conflict that could resemble the Sunni-Shia conflict of Iraq. In such a scenario, the Kurds would become secondary to both the Sunnis and Alawites of Syria and could use this status to maximize the security of their position.
The committee that is supposed to run the affairs of the Kurdish region, to be announced in Erbil, should first of all unilaterally announce the creation of the Kurdistan Region of Syria. They should start behaving as an independent region and organize their affairs accordingly.
This would serve two purposes. It would guarantee them a clear position once the Assad regime falls, and their participation – and its cost — in the political process of Damascus would be clear.
Given the Alawite fears of Sunni rule of the country, Assad could see a benefit in recognizing the Kurdish region as a step to transition Syria into a federal state. This is a fallback option for the Alawites, who are also a minority and have an older generation with many horror stories of “Sunni oppression.” Federalism in Syria could be a way to avert retribution against the Alawites by establishing three regions — an Alawite, a Sunni and a Kurdish region.
The other benefit of creating a Kurdish region now would be to give the Kurds a strong footing when it comes to negotiating a vision and constitution for the new Syria.
In Iraq, almost all non-Kurds have difficulty understanding that the country is a “voluntary union” of its people. Without a Kurdish region, it would be difficult to say that Kurds were equal partners and they have a lot to lose by being in Syria.
But the key to such a scenario is internal Kurdish unity. The Erbil agreement should be respected and an agreement between the KDP and PKK should be reached over the future of the Kurdish regions of Syria. The other important player in this is Turkey, who seems to be quiet given the initial hints over the past few days.
At times of uncertainty, those who create realities on the ground are the safest. Now is the time for the Kurds of Syria to create the reality of their federal region on the ground.
http://hiwaosman.com/2012/07/the-time-f ... -has-come/
Today, the Kurds of Syria are in a position to be a strong player in the new Syria and the Middle East. But this depends a great deal on their Kurdish neighbors and co-fighters – namely, the KDP and PKK.
The events of the past week have opened up a new horizon for the Kurds in the Middle East in general and the Kurds of Syria in particular. The liberation of the Kurdish cities of Syria presents a new kind of challenge for the Kurds of Syria.
At times like these, creative thinking could change the course of history and secure a better future. Given the developments in the other parts of Syria and the conflict between the Assad regime and the opposition, the leadership of Syrian Kurds could steer things in a different direction.
Although the conflict is now between the regime’s army and the free Syrian army, it will eventually take the shape of a Sunni-Alawite conflict that could resemble the Sunni-Shia conflict of Iraq. In such a scenario, the Kurds would become secondary to both the Sunnis and Alawites of Syria and could use this status to maximize the security of their position.
The committee that is supposed to run the affairs of the Kurdish region, to be announced in Erbil, should first of all unilaterally announce the creation of the Kurdistan Region of Syria. They should start behaving as an independent region and organize their affairs accordingly.
This would serve two purposes. It would guarantee them a clear position once the Assad regime falls, and their participation – and its cost — in the political process of Damascus would be clear.
Given the Alawite fears of Sunni rule of the country, Assad could see a benefit in recognizing the Kurdish region as a step to transition Syria into a federal state. This is a fallback option for the Alawites, who are also a minority and have an older generation with many horror stories of “Sunni oppression.” Federalism in Syria could be a way to avert retribution against the Alawites by establishing three regions — an Alawite, a Sunni and a Kurdish region.
The other benefit of creating a Kurdish region now would be to give the Kurds a strong footing when it comes to negotiating a vision and constitution for the new Syria.
In Iraq, almost all non-Kurds have difficulty understanding that the country is a “voluntary union” of its people. Without a Kurdish region, it would be difficult to say that Kurds were equal partners and they have a lot to lose by being in Syria.
But the key to such a scenario is internal Kurdish unity. The Erbil agreement should be respected and an agreement between the KDP and PKK should be reached over the future of the Kurdish regions of Syria. The other important player in this is Turkey, who seems to be quiet given the initial hints over the past few days.
At times of uncertainty, those who create realities on the ground are the safest. Now is the time for the Kurds of Syria to create the reality of their federal region on the ground.
http://hiwaosman.com/2012/07/the-time-f ... -has-come/
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:58 pm
Hidden US-Israeli Military Agenda: “Break Syria into Pieces”
A timely article in the Jerusalem Post last month brings to the forefront the unspoken objective of US foreign policy, namely the breaking up of Syria as a sovereign nation state –along ethnic and religious lines– into several separate and “independent” political entities. The article also confirms the role of Israel in the process of political destabilization of Syria. The JP article is titled: “Veteran Kurdish politician calls on Israel to support the break-up of Syria‘ (by Jonathan Spyer) (The Jerusalem Post (May 16, 2012)
The objective of the US sponsored armed insurgency is –with the help of Israel– to “Break Syria into Pieces”.
The “balkanisation of the Syrian Arab Republic” is to be carried out by fostering sectarian divisions, which will eventually lead to a “civil war” modelled on the former Yugoslavia. Last month, Syrian “opposition militants” were dispatched to Kosovo to organize training sessions using the “terrorist expertise” of the US sponsored Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in fighting the Yugoslav armed forces.
Sherkoh Abbas, President of the US based Kurdistan National Assembly of Syria (KNA) has “called on Israel to support the break-up of Syria into a series of federal structures based on the country’s various ethnicities.” (Ibid)
One possible ”break-up scenario” pertaining to Syria, which constitutes a secular multi-ethnic society, would be the formation of separate and “independent” Sunni, Alawite-Shiite, Kurdish and Druze states: “We need to break Syria into pieces,” Abbas said. (Quoted in JP, op. cit., emphasis added).
“The Syrian Kurdish dissident argued that a federal Syria, separated into four or five regions on an ethnic basis, would also serve as a natural “buffer” for Israel against both Sunni and Shi’ite Islamist forces.” (Ibid.).
Ironically, while Islamist forces are said to constitute the main threat to the Jewish State, Tel Aviv is providing covert support to the Islamist Free Syrian Army (FSA).
The public statements of KNA leader Sherkoh Abbas in the wake of the State Department meeting suggest that the political fracturing of the Syrian Arab Republic along ethnic and religious lines as well as the creation of an “independent Kurdistan” were discussed. “State Department Deputy Spokesman Mark Toner described [the meeting's] purpose as part of ‘ongoing efforts… to help the Syrian [Kurdish] opposition build a more cohesive opposition to Assad.’” (Ibid).
The KNA leader called upon Washington to support the creation of a separate Kurdish State consisting of “an autonomous region in Syria; joining the Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq – which borders the Kurdish region in Syria; or perhaps an even larger Kurdish state” [Greater Kurdistan].
“The Kurdish people, in all parts of Kurdistan, seek the right to form an independent Kurdish state. We can only achieve this cherished goal with the help of the western democracies, and first and foremost the U.S.” said Sherkoh Abbas. (Syria: An Alternative, Choice, Ekurd.net, May 22, 2012)
It is worth noting, in this regard, that the creation of a “Greater Kurdistan” has been envisaged for several years by the Pentagon as part of a broader “Plan for Redrawing the Middle East”.(See map 2 below)
This option, which appears unlikely in the near future, would go against the interests of Turkey, a staunch ally of both the US and Israel. Another scenario, which is contemplated by Ankara would consist in the annexation to Turkey of parts of Syrian Kurdistan.
http://alternatenewsmedia2012.wordpress ... kurdistan/
A timely article in the Jerusalem Post last month brings to the forefront the unspoken objective of US foreign policy, namely the breaking up of Syria as a sovereign nation state –along ethnic and religious lines– into several separate and “independent” political entities. The article also confirms the role of Israel in the process of political destabilization of Syria. The JP article is titled: “Veteran Kurdish politician calls on Israel to support the break-up of Syria‘ (by Jonathan Spyer) (The Jerusalem Post (May 16, 2012)
The objective of the US sponsored armed insurgency is –with the help of Israel– to “Break Syria into Pieces”.
The “balkanisation of the Syrian Arab Republic” is to be carried out by fostering sectarian divisions, which will eventually lead to a “civil war” modelled on the former Yugoslavia. Last month, Syrian “opposition militants” were dispatched to Kosovo to organize training sessions using the “terrorist expertise” of the US sponsored Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) in fighting the Yugoslav armed forces.
Sherkoh Abbas, President of the US based Kurdistan National Assembly of Syria (KNA) has “called on Israel to support the break-up of Syria into a series of federal structures based on the country’s various ethnicities.” (Ibid)
One possible ”break-up scenario” pertaining to Syria, which constitutes a secular multi-ethnic society, would be the formation of separate and “independent” Sunni, Alawite-Shiite, Kurdish and Druze states: “We need to break Syria into pieces,” Abbas said. (Quoted in JP, op. cit., emphasis added).
“The Syrian Kurdish dissident argued that a federal Syria, separated into four or five regions on an ethnic basis, would also serve as a natural “buffer” for Israel against both Sunni and Shi’ite Islamist forces.” (Ibid.).
Ironically, while Islamist forces are said to constitute the main threat to the Jewish State, Tel Aviv is providing covert support to the Islamist Free Syrian Army (FSA).
The public statements of KNA leader Sherkoh Abbas in the wake of the State Department meeting suggest that the political fracturing of the Syrian Arab Republic along ethnic and religious lines as well as the creation of an “independent Kurdistan” were discussed. “State Department Deputy Spokesman Mark Toner described [the meeting's] purpose as part of ‘ongoing efforts… to help the Syrian [Kurdish] opposition build a more cohesive opposition to Assad.’” (Ibid).
The KNA leader called upon Washington to support the creation of a separate Kurdish State consisting of “an autonomous region in Syria; joining the Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq – which borders the Kurdish region in Syria; or perhaps an even larger Kurdish state” [Greater Kurdistan].
“The Kurdish people, in all parts of Kurdistan, seek the right to form an independent Kurdish state. We can only achieve this cherished goal with the help of the western democracies, and first and foremost the U.S.” said Sherkoh Abbas. (Syria: An Alternative, Choice, Ekurd.net, May 22, 2012)
It is worth noting, in this regard, that the creation of a “Greater Kurdistan” has been envisaged for several years by the Pentagon as part of a broader “Plan for Redrawing the Middle East”.(See map 2 below)
This option, which appears unlikely in the near future, would go against the interests of Turkey, a staunch ally of both the US and Israel. Another scenario, which is contemplated by Ankara would consist in the annexation to Turkey of parts of Syrian Kurdistan.
http://alternatenewsmedia2012.wordpress ... kurdistan/
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:00 pm
Washington Promotes Kurdish Uprising: US “Kurdish” Threat Aimed at Turkey, Not Syria
The violence in Syria has been predominantly carried out by extremist groups, tied to Al Qaeda, and organized, funded, staged, and armed by the United States, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, with Lebanon’s Hariri faction playing a major supporting role. Starting as early as 2007, it was reported that Syria’s notoriously violent Muslim Brotherhood was already receiving support from the West to begin undermining Syria as part of a grander strategy to break the Iranian-Syrian-Hezbollah sphere of influence across the region.
The Kurds, occupying territory straddling the Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Turkish borders, have for nearly as long, been fighting against Turkish forces, with US-occupied Iraq hosting several Turkish invasions aimed at crushing alleged Kurdish strongholds. Unlike Syria’s battle against admittedly foreign-funded and armed militants, many of whom are not even Syrian, the “international community” has been mute over Turkey’s military campaigns against Kurds both within and beyond its borders. And even throughout the duration of Syria’s current unrest, Turkey has continued conducting military operations against the Kurds.
Syria’s Kurdish population has remained neutral, as have most of Syria’s minority groups – fearing Libya-style consequences of allowing heavily armed, foreign-backed extremists to overrun their nation and either impose draconian restrictions upon them, or uproot and/or exterminate them all together, as the people ofLibya’s Tawargha have experienced. So then, Washington’s latest move, in addition to openly admitting they are facilitating the arming of Syria’s opposition in the midst of a UN brokered “ceasefire,” to invite “Kurds” from Syria for talks about arming and deploying them against President Bashar al-Assad, seems a very unlikely scenario. Indeed, Washington may very well arm Syria’s Kurds, but the direction they will ultimately go will be Ankara, not Damascus.
And even if Syria’s Kurds decided to rise up against the Syrian government for Western interests first, just as is happening in Libya, the weapons, cash, and support they use to do it with will inevitably end up being used against Turkey in the near future. In Libya, arms from NATO have already trickled into the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group’s (LIFG) affiliates across Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), and even into the hands of Nigeria’s Boko Haram.
Published by corporate-financier funded US policy think-tank, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, “The Syrian Dilemma: Turkey’s Response to the Crisis,” notes that Turkey is the ideal proxy for the West to carry forth its agenda, but also recognizes the quandary faced by Turkey. Turkey could not credibly intervene in Syria on “humanitarian grounds” while carrying out similar military campaigns within its own borders against the Kurds, and any incursion into Syria by Turkey could lead to a backlash from the Kurdish community across the region.
Turkey, which has been selected by US foreign policy think-tanks to create “safe havens” within Syria for NATO’s proxy forces, has yet to materialize any concrete plan of action. It may be that Turkey has decided against what is ultimately the first phase of a greater war against Iran, and in turn Russia and China. The US using Turkey as a proxy, will fight its enemies to the last Turk, after bleeding its own soldiers dry and bankrupting its taxpayers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Turkey’s hesitation, in Washington’s eyes, after the offering of several unpalatable carrots, seems to be now incurring the stick. If Turkey needed any more reasons to abandon a pro-Wall Street-London stance, this latest provocation by Washington should be it.
It is unlikely the West will have any success in triggering a Kurdish uprising in Syria. If Turkey assists the Syrian government in restoring order within its borders, it is also unlikely that any attempt by the West to arm the Kurds as a punitive action against Turkey will gain any traction. However, if Turkey assists the West in destabilizing, dividing, and destroying Syria, a lawless Libya-style staging ground for militant activities in all directions, including Ankara, will result. And if Libya’s “post-revolution” dystopia can serve as a warning to Turkey against advancing the West’s agenda, “pre-revolution” Libya where the West feigned rapprochement with Muammar Qaddafi before ultimately betraying him can serve as warning against Turkey for believing it serves as anything more than a lever with which the West seeks to use to advance its own exclusively beneficial interests.
The violence in Syria has been predominantly carried out by extremist groups, tied to Al Qaeda, and organized, funded, staged, and armed by the United States, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, with Lebanon’s Hariri faction playing a major supporting role. Starting as early as 2007, it was reported that Syria’s notoriously violent Muslim Brotherhood was already receiving support from the West to begin undermining Syria as part of a grander strategy to break the Iranian-Syrian-Hezbollah sphere of influence across the region.
The Kurds, occupying territory straddling the Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Turkish borders, have for nearly as long, been fighting against Turkish forces, with US-occupied Iraq hosting several Turkish invasions aimed at crushing alleged Kurdish strongholds. Unlike Syria’s battle against admittedly foreign-funded and armed militants, many of whom are not even Syrian, the “international community” has been mute over Turkey’s military campaigns against Kurds both within and beyond its borders. And even throughout the duration of Syria’s current unrest, Turkey has continued conducting military operations against the Kurds.
Syria’s Kurdish population has remained neutral, as have most of Syria’s minority groups – fearing Libya-style consequences of allowing heavily armed, foreign-backed extremists to overrun their nation and either impose draconian restrictions upon them, or uproot and/or exterminate them all together, as the people ofLibya’s Tawargha have experienced. So then, Washington’s latest move, in addition to openly admitting they are facilitating the arming of Syria’s opposition in the midst of a UN brokered “ceasefire,” to invite “Kurds” from Syria for talks about arming and deploying them against President Bashar al-Assad, seems a very unlikely scenario. Indeed, Washington may very well arm Syria’s Kurds, but the direction they will ultimately go will be Ankara, not Damascus.
And even if Syria’s Kurds decided to rise up against the Syrian government for Western interests first, just as is happening in Libya, the weapons, cash, and support they use to do it with will inevitably end up being used against Turkey in the near future. In Libya, arms from NATO have already trickled into the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group’s (LIFG) affiliates across Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), and even into the hands of Nigeria’s Boko Haram.
Published by corporate-financier funded US policy think-tank, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, “The Syrian Dilemma: Turkey’s Response to the Crisis,” notes that Turkey is the ideal proxy for the West to carry forth its agenda, but also recognizes the quandary faced by Turkey. Turkey could not credibly intervene in Syria on “humanitarian grounds” while carrying out similar military campaigns within its own borders against the Kurds, and any incursion into Syria by Turkey could lead to a backlash from the Kurdish community across the region.
Turkey, which has been selected by US foreign policy think-tanks to create “safe havens” within Syria for NATO’s proxy forces, has yet to materialize any concrete plan of action. It may be that Turkey has decided against what is ultimately the first phase of a greater war against Iran, and in turn Russia and China. The US using Turkey as a proxy, will fight its enemies to the last Turk, after bleeding its own soldiers dry and bankrupting its taxpayers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Turkey’s hesitation, in Washington’s eyes, after the offering of several unpalatable carrots, seems to be now incurring the stick. If Turkey needed any more reasons to abandon a pro-Wall Street-London stance, this latest provocation by Washington should be it.
It is unlikely the West will have any success in triggering a Kurdish uprising in Syria. If Turkey assists the Syrian government in restoring order within its borders, it is also unlikely that any attempt by the West to arm the Kurds as a punitive action against Turkey will gain any traction. However, if Turkey assists the West in destabilizing, dividing, and destroying Syria, a lawless Libya-style staging ground for militant activities in all directions, including Ankara, will result. And if Libya’s “post-revolution” dystopia can serve as a warning to Turkey against advancing the West’s agenda, “pre-revolution” Libya where the West feigned rapprochement with Muammar Qaddafi before ultimately betraying him can serve as warning against Turkey for believing it serves as anything more than a lever with which the West seeks to use to advance its own exclusively beneficial interests.
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Qamishli - 21/07/12
Author: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:37 pm
The guy talks about Qamishli and gives information about the kurdish forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rToktfr7iA&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rToktfr7iA&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:46 pm
What does he say ?
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KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:13 pm
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KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:14 pm
Several Kurdish MPs in iraqi parliament urge the kurds in syria not to repeat mistakes of kurds in SK after 1991 uprising
http://nrttv.com/dreje.aspx?Jimare=19370
http://nrttv.com/dreje.aspx?Jimare=19370
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KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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what does this say ??
Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:22 pm
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KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:25 pm
wall street journal: "iran sends weapon to syria via iraq, US is thinking about closing iran iraq airspace for the time been".
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater
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KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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Re:
Author: hevalo27 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:26 pm
alan131210 wrote:Several Kurdish MPs in iraqi parliament urge the kurds in syria not to repeat mistakes of kurds in SK after 1991 uprising
http://nrttv.com/dreje.aspx?Jimare=19370
which mistakes are meaned?
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: diako_ber » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:26 pm
Where are the kurdistani flags? 
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Re: Re:
Author: diako_ber » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:28 pm
hevalo27 wrote:alan131210 wrote:Several Kurdish MPs in iraqi parliament urge the kurds in syria not to repeat mistakes of kurds in SK after 1991 uprising
http://nrttv.com/dreje.aspx?Jimare=19370
which mistakes are meaned?
The civil war, the "bra kuj"
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Author: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:29 pm
just like i feared while you all took it as a joke, "FSA is threatening PKK to let them enter Kurdish areas if not they will use force"
the PYD flag has to be stopped for farks sake, only Kurdistan flag then our enemies cant have any excuse . this is definitely asked by turkey.
hich kurdsitan rojavash ft, RIP WK.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater
the PYD flag has to be stopped for farks sake, only Kurdistan flag then our enemies cant have any excuse . this is definitely asked by turkey.
hich kurdsitan rojavash ft, RIP WK.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater
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Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
KERKUK is the Heart of Kurdistan
Kurdish state is on the horizon with WK now freed great kurdistan is closing in.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan
Author: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:29 pm
alan131210 wrote:What does he say ?
Not too sure what to believe any more .
He is saying the syrian free Army and the kurds are coordinating an attack on Qamishlo tonight and it should be liberated within hours . He also say that all the regions surrounding Qamishlo and Hasaka has been liberated and the only thing left is the city centres.
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