PKK and Zoroastrianism

[kurd-sthanam]

Palisto is not from Netherlands.

And what the hell are you talking about? First of all the Mithraism is an evolved version of the Zoroastrianism. It has the same roots.

Zoroastrianism is based on Mithraism not the other way around. You have red too much political-Farsian nonsense from Wikipedia.

Also my GOD is Xode Shams and not Tause Melek. Tause Melek is an ANGEL and not my SUN GOD!

Kurds use to call their God Xweda. Only Persians say Xode. Are you sure you aint Persian? Shams my little friend is the name of the Sun and Mithra is the symbol of sun not Zarathustra. For Gods sake go inform yourself.

Also our religious leaders, Sheikhs and Pirs, are saying the same thing what I’m telling you!

This is basically ideological and became modern to call himself Zoroastrian. Real Yazidis from South, West and Central Kurdistan will tell you that they have nothing to do with Zoroastrianism I am telling you. You are so ignorant that you worship the Person (zarathustra) who demonized your religion to get more attention.

zoroaster is a prophet not a deity
ahura mazda means "light wisdom" and is zoroastrians god
the first zoroastirans spoke "Avestan" language, not persian. the name of the ethnic and language is unknown, therefor is the language called Avestan, after the name of book.
xweda and xode are the same. we also say xode. xweda, xwedê, xoda, xûda, xûdê, xadê... these are dialectical varieties.

but yes mazdaism is not = yezidism.

[Kurdistano]

Palisto is not from Netherlands.

And what the hell are you talking about? First of all the Mithraism is an evolved version of the Zoroastrianism. It has the same roots.

Zoroastrianism is based on Mithraism not the other way around. You have red too much political-Farsian nonsense from Wikipedia.

Also my GOD is Xode Shams and not Tause Melek. Tause Melek is an ANGEL and not my SUN GOD!

Kurds use to call their God Xweda. Only Persians say Xode. Are you sure you aint Persian? Shams my little friend is the name of the Sun and Mithra is the symbol of sun not Zarathustra. For Gods sake go inform yourself.

Also our religious leaders, Sheikhs and Pirs, are saying the same thing what I’m telling you!

This is basically ideological and became modern to call himself Zoroastrian. Real Yazidis from South, West and Central Kurdistan will tell you that they have nothing to do with Zoroastrianism I am telling you. You are so ignorant that you worship the Person (zarathustra) who demonized your religion to get more attention.

zoroaster is a prophet not a deity
ahura mazda means "light wisdom" and is zoroastrians god
the first zoroastirans spoke "Avestan" language, not persian. the name of the ethnic and language is unknown, therefor is the language called Avestan, after the name of book.
xweda and xode are the same. we also say xode. xweda, xwedê, xoda, xûda, xûdê, xadê... these are dialectical varieties.

but yes mazdaism is not = yezidism.

Zoroastrianism in "modern" science has become a umbrella term for every religion connect to ancient Iranic people. Including Mithraism. Zoroastra (the self declared prophet) simply copied Mithraism. Zoroaster who himself was a outcast Mithraist, was probably from Kurdistan or Khorasan, thats why his book was written in a North Iranic language. He found most followers among Persians. Thats why I call him a Persian prophet. Yazdanism is older and probably originated from the original Religion of Iranic and other Indo-European people.

[kurd-sthanam]

Zoroastrianism in "modern" science has become a umbrella term for every religion connect to ancient Iranic people. Including Mithraism. Zoroastra (the self declared prophet) simply copied Mithraism. Zoroaster who himself was a outcast Mithraist, was probably from Kurdistan or Khorasan, thats why his book was written in a North Iranic language. He found most followers among Persians. Thats why I call him a Persian prophet. Yazdanism is older and probably originated from the original Religion of Iranic and other Indo-European people.

avesta is not writen in western iranic language (like kurdish, persian) but in eastern iranic (like pashto). and as i know yezidism is founded after islam. melek taus is a angel who became satan/iblis. but as i know, the angel became good again in yezidism.

[kurd-sthanam]

As an Yezidi I'm saying that this is a bullshit article. The Yezidism and Zoroastrianism have the same ‘Iranic’ = ARYAN roots!

Both religions are basically almost the same.

hey do you know were i can find your holly book? on internet or real? and how is it written?

[Vladimir]

My main point was that Turkey/AKP was using religion against Kurdish nationalist organizations. What I was taught in college is that Yezidism is indeed more likely to be close to Mithraism, but if you want to ask a real expert, ask Philip Kreyenbroek, not me.

[Kurdistano]

Zoroastrianism in "modern" science has become a umbrella term for every religion connect to ancient Iranic people. Including Mithraism. Zoroastra (the self declared prophet) simply copied Mithraism. Zoroaster who himself was a outcast Mithraist, was probably from Kurdistan or Khorasan, thats why his book was written in a North Iranic language. He found most followers among Persians. Thats why I call him a Persian prophet. Yazdanism is older and probably originated from the original Religion of Iranic and other Indo-European people.

avesta is not writen in western iranic language (like kurdish, persian) but in eastern iranic (like pashto).

why are you arguing against imaginary statements?

Where did I wrote anything about West and East Iranic. I wrote North Iranic. Its not even clear if Avesta ever existed and was not only a "marketing trick" of Zoroaster to bring his religion closer to all Iranic speaking areas.

and as i know yezidism is founded after islam. melek taus is a angel who became satan/iblis. but as i know, the angel became good again in yezidism.

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

[Kurdistano]

My main point was that Turkey/AKP was using religion against Kurdish nationalist organizations. What I was taught in college is that Yezidism is indeed more likely to be close to Mithraism, but if you want to ask a real expert, ask Philip Kreyenbroek, not me.

You are fully right but some people are fine with being associated with Zoroastrianism cause it sounds somehow "hip". But in reality if you really take some time with Yezidism it will become more and more obvious that its roots must be searched in Mithraism.

[kurd-sthanam]

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

you may be right with the traditions and islamificion, also muslim kurds have non-muslim superstitions(including us), but the creation story is abrahamic or abrahamic inspired and founded after islam. melek is also used in hebrew. melek in kurdish is frîşte.

[jjmuneer]

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

you may be right with the traditions and islamificion, also muslim kurds have non-muslim superstitions(including us), but the creation story is abrahamic or abrahamic inspired and founded after islam. melek is also used in hebrew. melek in kurdish is frîşte.

As a uslim Kurd, I don't seperate or try and segregate bewteen muslim or non-muslim Kurd. Were all Kurds and all have the same blood at the end of the day.

[kurd-sthanam]

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

you may be right with the traditions and islamificion, also muslim kurds have non-muslim superstitions(including us), but the creation story is abrahamic or abrahamic inspired and founded after islam. melek is also used in hebrew. melek in kurdish is frîşte.

As a uslim Kurd, I don't seperate or try and segregate bewteen muslim or non-muslim Kurd. Were all Kurds and all have the same blood at the end of the day.

i didnt want talk about segregate kurds, as a non-religios kurd of course we are all kurdish.

[Kurdistano]

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

you may be right with the traditions and islamificion, also muslim kurds have non-muslim superstitions(including us), but the creation story is abrahamic or abrahamic inspired and founded after islam. melek is also used in hebrew. melek in kurdish is frîşte.

You seem to not understand what I am trying to tell you here. Abrahmic religions are younger than Zoroastrianism. Mithraism on the other Hand is even older than Zoroastrianism.

Firiste for angel is only one word. It is not unusual that in some languages to have two words with the same meanings. Melek is derived from Iranic to semitic. Abrahimic religions are hugely influenced by more ancient Religions including Mithraism.

[jjmuneer]

Yezidism goes much worther back than Islam and all scientist will tell you the same. Melek and Taus are two loanwords from Iranic to Arabic. Yezidis just like the original Alevis and Al i Hags have simply "Islamified" their traditions. The traditions of Yezidis show relations to Hindusim, ancient Greek and ancient Thracian religions.

you may be right with the traditions and islamificion, also muslim kurds have non-muslim superstitions(including us), but the creation story is abrahamic or abrahamic inspired and founded after islam. melek is also used in hebrew. melek in kurdish is frîşte.

You seem to not understand what I am trying to tell you here. Abrahmic religions are younger than Zoroastrianism. Mithraism on the other Hand is even older than Zoroastrianism.

Firiste for angel is only one word. It is not unusual that in some languages to have two words with the same meanings. Melek is derived from Iranic to semitic. Abrahimic religions are hugely influenced by more ancient Religions including Mithraism.

And Zorastrianism evolved off Mithraism.

[kurekurda]

hello, im new, i want to say, shit on mithras and zarathrusta, today kurds are muslims, yezide, alevites, al hek, shabak, christian, jews and more. we dont need so things. we have our actually religions and thats enough. we only need free kurdistan and our freedom.

sorry, my english is bad.

[thesunchild]

As an Yezidi I'm saying that this is a bullshit article. The Yezidism and Zoroastrianism have the same ‘Iranic’ = ARYAN roots!

Both religions are basically almost the same.

hey do you know were i can find your holly book? on internet or real? and how is it written?

Folks like you make the Yezidis look evil and devilworshipers. People like you burned our holy books and killed many innocent Kurds.

As far as I know is the Zoroastrianism between 5000 – 8000 years old. The Yezidism is maybe even older. But it got it last update / last reforme after the Islam.

The Yezidism is the first monotheistic religion in the world! It is not the same as the ancient Hindu and Greeks mythology.

The Mitraism, the Zoroastriansim are all from the same source, from the Mesopotamia. All these religions are Irano-Hurrian and pluralistic as it can be. But as far as I know the Mitraism came much later!

Also the Yezidism is an Irano-Hurrian (Aryan) religion from Kurdistan / the Mesopotamia where the Sun God is central and it has nothing to do with other parts of the world!

I do agree that Zordesht was an outcast from a Kurdish society who went to Bactria and made a new religion called the Zoroastrianism...

[kurd-sthanam]

As an Yezidi I'm saying that this is a bullshit article. The Yezidism and Zoroastrianism have the same ‘Iranic’ = ARYAN roots!

Both religions are basically almost the same.

hey do you know were i can find your holly book? on internet or real? and how is it written?

Folks like you make the Yezidis look evil and devilworshipers. People like you burned our holy books and killed many innocent Kurds.

As far as I know is the Zoroastrianism between 5000 – 8000 years old. The Yezidism is maybe even older. But it got it last update / last reforme after the Islam.

The Yezidism is the first monotheistic religion in the world! It is not the same as the ancient Hindu and Greeks mythology.

The Mitraism, the Zoroastriansim are all from the same source, from the Mesopotamia. All these religions are Irano-Hurrian and pluralistic as it can be. But as far as I know the Mitraism came much later!

Also the Yezidism is an Irano-Hurrian (Aryan) religion from Kurdistan / the Mesopotamia where the Sun God is central and it has nothing to do with other parts of the world!

I do agree that Zordesht was an outcast from a Kurdish society who went to Bactria and made a new religion called the Zoroastrianism...

keko min çi kir? have i sad devilworshipers? i only asked about you know were i can find mishefa reş in its original Kurmancî form, in the yezidi alphabet and latin translate.