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Sema

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:39 am
Author: KimsorZeynep
Hello People,

I ran into this web-site by accident when I was looking for the steps of
the Kurdish folk dance Semame. I was impressed by the post I've been seeing
here and I like the moderate tone and genuine interrest.

I'm of half Kurdish and half Turkish ancestry, born and raised in Europe and now an
American. So, I find the usual hostilities (verbal and otherwise) to be found anythere
coming from Kurds against Turks and vice versa (or any other people for that matter)
hurtfull!

It is obviously unproductive, and Kurds as well as their neighbors need to find
ways to become friends and love one another. I'd like to look for cues here and hope
to learn more about the Kurdish half of my ancestry, language and cultural heritage.


Peace
Barish
Shalom
Frieden

(it's sad, I don't know even the word for peace in Kurdish)

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:24 am
Author: Barış
Welcome to Rojbash.
What's kurdish folk dance semame like?
I'm of half Mongol and Tuvan ancestry. Born in UB, Mongolia, move to İstanbul Türkiye, then move back home again... This is a friendly forum. There's not much hostilities here. Where in europe was you born and raised?
Yea, I agree kurds and türks need to find ways to become friends...
I don't know kurdish word for peace either. :lol:
Barış :D
Энх тайван

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:48 pm
Author: proudkurd
welcome to Roj Bash Kurdistan :D

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:19 pm
Author: Diri
@KimsoyZeynep

You are most welcome to Roj Bash Kurdistan, dear sister... :)

Yes, this is indeed a moderate and balanced forum - where extremist propaganda is kept out, and peace and discussion is encouraged!

Let's start here: the word for "Peace" in Kurdish, is Aştî... :) It derived from the word "Aş" ("Aş bûn" = in e.g. "to be at peace").


Where in Europe were you based? I'd guess Germany?


Şemamê? You probably mean Şêxanî... Right? Please show a video from YouTube as an example... Although I am pretty sure you mean Şêxanî! :)


Again, welcome... :D

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:20 pm
Author: Diri
By the way - is your name Sema or Zeyneb?

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:47 am
Author: sicpit
Hola Como estas! Here is peace in espanol

Paz

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:47 pm
Author: KimsorZeynep
Diri: Yes, I believe you're right, the Kurdish name for this Kurdish/middle Eastern dance seems to be Şernexi.
They may be calling or spelling it in Turkish as Semame (?). My name is Zeynep!

Sispit: Hola!

Asti

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:20 am
Author: Uuganaa
Hi

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:59 am
Author: proudkurd
Welcome to Roj Bash Kurdistan!

Peace in swedish is Fred! :)

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:11 pm
Author: Diri
KimsorZeynep wrote:Diri: Yes, I believe you're right, the Kurdish name for this Kurdish/middle Eastern dance seems to be Şernexi.
They may be calling or spelling it in Turkish as Semame (?). My name is Zeynep!

Sispit: Hola!

Asti


Şernexî?

I said Şêxanî... :)

You don't understand, Zeyneb: "Şemamê" is the name of a SONG. It is a folkloric Kurdish song. And 99% of the time, when this song is sung it's sung in Serhed (the mountainous area of North-Eastern Kurdistan which includes the provinces of Wan, Colemêrg, Bidlîs, Mûş etc. - the lands around Lake Wan). And when it's sung, people dance the dance called Şêxanî!

Keeping up? :) Şemamê = Kurdish folkloric song and Şêxanî = Kurdish folkloric dance...

Search for "Şemamê" on Youtube, you will see them dancing Şêxanî in the videos...

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:20 pm
Author: KimsorZeynep
Oh, OK! That makes sense.
Yes, I run across Semame on YouTube...and
was impressed by the kids dancing it. There are
a few others (one with girls). It's awesome!

I did some Turkish/Kurdish folk dances way back,
but this one rocks! Anybody teaching these or are
there any internet resources?

Thanks for your advise, correction and attention!

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:07 pm
Author: Diri
KimsorZeynep wrote:Oh, OK! That makes sense.
Yes, I run across Semame on YouTube...and
was impressed by the kids dancing it. There are
a few others (one with girls). It's awesome!

I did some Turkish/Kurdish folk dances way back,
but this one rocks! Anybody teaching these or are
there any internet resources?

Thanks for your advise, correction and attention!


I think you mean this video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YxlYmpNiRWg&mode=related&search=&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

But as you see, it's not Şêxanî - and it's not Şemamê (song) - but Zer Mîrcan... :)

And the dance is local to Zaza Kurds in Elezîz, Dersîm and Çewlik - probably as far south as Amed, where many of those from these areas have moved to...

Here is Şêxanî:

Elezîz (not so good at it):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4K92QyXh0&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

And:

Wan (very good at it):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bqy-rTaw0HE&mode=related&search=&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   




I just browsed YouTube and found this:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tofMw0guyMM&mode=related&search=&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I've never seen this dance before... And the title is "Şemamê" - is this the dance you mean, perhaps?

But I don't trust the titles on YouTube - because MANY times the people upload a video and just call it something... For example there are many Kurdish dances on YouTube - like Sêpê - which are called "Şêxanî" in their title description on YouTube - which of course is silly...

Some people mix up the dances and their names... And "Şêxanî" is the most widely abused name...

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:58 am
Author: KimsorZeynep
They're all real good. The wrong title-ing happens
when people who don't master Kurdish well (or none at all)
attempt to name it without any controlling help.

I blame the elders who wouldn't teach it to their offspring

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:44 pm
Author: Marie K.
welcome!! :)

Re: Sema

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:09 pm
Author: sicpit
So you say you live in the states now, which states...