Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

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Any new news about PYD and ENKS ?
Will they go to hawler again?

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Iraqi arme attack peshmerga..??? Beetwen bashur and rojava border

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrAoRoyUw2I&feature=g-all-u

Terrorist Kerdogan mentioned the possibility to move his country militarily in northern Syria to confront what he called the threat of an organization operating there, referring to the PKK. Erdogan accused the Syrian regime of giving the areas to the Kurdish party belonging to the PKK.

At the end, the reporter said that the Syrians as a whole, are scared of the last card, the kurdish card which is the most dangerous card what assad will be playing.

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Turkish foreign policy, codified by Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, used to be known in shorthand as "zero problems with our neighbors". When Turkey started calling for regime change in Syria, it turned into "a major problem with one of our neighbors" (even tough Davutoglu himself admitted on the record the policy change failed).

Now, in yet another twist, it's becoming "all sorts of problems with two of our neighbors". Enter - inevitably - Ankara's ultimate taboo; the Kurdish question.

Ankara used to routinely chase and bomb Kurdish PKK guerrillas crossing from Anatolia to Iraqi Kurdistan. Now it may be positioning itself to do the same in Syrian Kurdistan.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan came out all guns blazing on Turkish TV; "We will not allow a terrorist group to establish camps in northern Syria and threaten Turkey."

He was referring to the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Party (PYD) - affiliated with the PKK; after a quiet deal with the Assad regime in Damascus, the PYD is now in control of key areas in northeast Syria.

So Ankara may provide logistics to tens of thousands of Syria's NATO "rebels" - which include plenty of hardcore Sunni Arab "insurgents" formerly known as terrorists; but as long as Syrian Kurds - which are part of the Syrian opposition - demonstrate some independence, they immediately revert to being considered "terrorists".

It's all conditioned by Ankara's immediate nightmare; the prospect of a semiautonomous Syrian Kurdistan very closely linked to Iraqi Kurdistan.

Follow the oil
This Swedish report [1] contains arguably the best breakdown of the hyper-fragmented Syrian opposition. The "rebels" are dominated by the exile-heavy Syrian National Council (SNC) and its Hydra-style militias, the over 100 gangs that compose the Not Exactly Free Syrian Army (FSA).

But there are many other parties as well, including socialists; Marxists; secular nationalists; Islamists; the Kurdish National Council (KNC) - an 11-party coalition very close to the Iraqi Kurdistan government; and the PYD.

The KNC and the PYD may bicker about everything else, but basically agree on the essential; the civil war in Syria shall not penetrate Syria Kurdistan; after all, when it comes to the nitty gritty, they are neither pro-Assad nor pro-opposition; they favor Kurdish interests. The agreement was sealed under the auspices of their cousins - the Iraqi Kurds. And it explains why they are now in full control of a de facto Kurdish enclave in northeast Syria.
As much as Turkish paranoia may apply, it's a long and winding road from a semi-autonomous area to an independent Kurdistan agglutinating Kurds in both Syria and Iraq - not to mention, in the long run, Turkish Kurds. Yet half of a possible, future, independent Kurdistan would indeed be Turkish. Ankara's nightmare in progress is that the closer Iraqi and Syrian Kurdistan get, the merrier the agitation among Turkish Kurds in Anatolia.

Priorities though divert; the bottom line for Iraqi Kurds is independence from Baghdad. After all; they have loads of oil. On the other hand Syria Kurdistan has none. This means, crucially, no role in regional Pipelineistan.

This concerns above all two strategic oil and gas pipelines from Kirkuk to Ceyhan - a direct deal between Ankara and the Iraqi Kurds which in theory bypasses Baghdad.

Well, not really. As Baghdad has made it clear, there's no way these pipelines will be operative without the central government having its sizeable cut; after all it pays for 95% of the budget of Iraqi Kurdistan.

Show me your terrorist ID
Iraqi Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani told al-Jazeera [2] that yes - they are training Syrian Kurds who defected from the Syrian Army to defend their de facto enclave. It was Barzani who supervised the key deal sealed in Irbil on July 11 that led to Assad forces retreating from Syrian Kurdistan.

What is being described as "liberated cities" [3] is now being "jointly ruled" by the PYD and the KNC. They have formed what is known as a Supreme Kurdish Body.

One can never underestimate the Kurdish capacity to shoot themselves in the foot (and elsewhere). Yet one can also imagine all this cross-country Kurdish frenzy terrifying quite a few souls in Istanbul and Ankara. This [4] columnist for the daily newspaper Hurriyet got it right; "Arabs are fighting, Kurds are winning." The Kurdish Spring is at hand. And it is already hitting Turkey's borders.

Davutoglu must have seen it coming; when a formerly "zero problem" foreign policy evolves into housing the weaponized opposition to a neighboring government, you're bound to be in trouble.

Especially when you start itching to kill "terrorists" living in your neighbor's territory - even though your Western allies may view them as "freedom fighters". Meanwhile you actively support Salafi-jihadis - "insurgents" formerly known as terrorists - back and forth across your borders.

An increasingly erratic Erdogan has invoked a "natural right" [5] to fight "terrorists". But first they must produce an ID; if they are Sunni Arab, they get away with it. If they are Kurdish, they eat lead.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG28Ak02.html

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The Kurdish entry into the Syrian theater is an exciting element. Curiously, it has exposed two opposite camps in Turkey. Some claim that the area of what they call “western Kurdistan” will any day now fall under the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) control, while others see the pullout of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces from the entire Turkish border area as a new, profound opportunity for a new regional design with Turkey in the lead.

I received a note for my previous column from a reliable old source, an expert on Kurdish movements in the region and a former intelligence employee of the American administration.

After some undue praise, he wrote: “Like all political issues, this one [fears of Kurdish aspirations on self-rule in northern Syria] too is played by the various factions in and outside Turkey to their own ends. Look at the absence of serious discussion even in Washington over the Syrian issue, although I think the government does understand the complexity and risks of intervention. I have some modest confidence that Turkey will muddle through and come out on the right side of these Syrian-related issues. It has shown remarkable ability to do so over the past two decades or more.”

This is a view I share as far as confidence in the “new Ankara” goes, though I maintain my concerns that “deep Ankara” is still healthy and keen enough to make an “anti-Kurdish” comeback. It has changed tactics lately by acting in visible submission to the power exercised by the Justice and Development Party (AKP) but stands ready to strike (as the Uludere tragedy showed) when it finds a proper “loophole.” So, when it comes to managing a post-Assad Syria, deep wisdom is blended with hope and caution. In a new assessment posted on the Al-Monitor website, Henri J. Barkey, professor of international relations at Lehigh University and a highly esteemed expert on PKK-related issues, presented such a perspective.

“On paper,” Barkey wrote, “the main beneficiary of the change in Syria will be Turkey. With America’s diminished posture and a weakened Iran, Turkey emerges as an economic behemoth ready to engage with its businesspeople and know-how. It is also the country that both the US and the Europeans expect will help establish a semblance of order in Syria.

“A strengthened Kurdish movement will put pressure on Turkey to resolve its own domestic Kurdish problem; this would be a long overdue and a welcome development. Still, it is not completely clear that Turkish leaders, who have big ideas but often act emotionally, have the wherewithal and maturity to rise to these twin challenges of Kurdish resurgence and managing the chaos that will ensue after Assad’s departure,” Barkey concluded.

Not completely clear, indeed, but not acting on primitive reflexes, either. The “wait and see” attitude of Ankara is somewhat synched with many pundits in the pro-government press.

And while others of the Kemalist breed again start to pump up old fears and hatred of Kurdish aspirations for self-rule, reporters from the same outlets showed remarkable nuances in their reports on the ground, stating that many Syrian Kurds were indeed ready to fight the PKK if they saw an intent to set up a liberated zone or a “statelet.”

The main question from now on is what the choice of the PKK will be, regarding Syria in particular, and the Kurdish “awakening” in the regional context. I could not have expressed better what Orhan Miroğlu, a Kurdish intellectual with vast knowledge of the PKK, who in the 1990s barely survived a hit organized by “deep Ankara,” suggested in the Taraf daily yesterday:

“The Syrian revolution seems to be a big political test for the PKK. Because it presents a chance for the Kurds and the international community to judge its ability to share power with others. The PKK has two choices: Risk opposing Syrian Kurds, the Syrian National Congress and the West, and pursue the formation of an autonomous -- or buffer -- zone, which equals political suicide. Or, it may choose to be part of the revolution.

“Turkey and Southern Kurdistan” -- Iraq -- “are neighbors of Syrian Kurds. The PKK conducts an armed struggle against the former and sees the latter as the sole adversary to its existence. ... The PKK will be unable to construct an own area under its hegemony. Syria’s ethnic map and sociology will not allow it... The PKK cannot remain the old PKK, in spite of the Syrian revolution, because it is already in the revolution. Even if it has not done anything to be part of it, and even if it had earlier cooperated with a dictator, who is ready to fall any time now, this gives a chance for change. You may find my idea premature, and I would understand it, but let me say it: The PKK must hurry for a peace settlement with Turkey. Because it has, from now on, things to lose in Syria and this fact will force it not to wage further war, but to seek dialogue and settlement.”

Add to this, the role of the religious and sectarian loyalties of Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, as well. So, it is a long and winding road, but no reason for panic.

http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2012 ... 28626.html

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Ismail hami: We can Resist/Address against any Turkish intervention in the territory of West Kurdistan.


In an interview with the Firat news, Mr. Ismail hami head of Union of Kurds in Syria and a member of the Kurdish Supreme emanating from the agreement between the congress for the Western Kurdistan and the Kurdish national, where we met with Mr. Hami in the hall Noureddine Zaza far end of the second meeting made between the members of the Supreme council on Thursday in the Qamishlo. In a question on the agreement between the two Kurdish parties and the results of the meetings that took place between the Kurdish Supreme said Hami:

"This is our second meeting in the Kurdish Supreme council, and came of this meeting in order to introduce the terms of the Hawler into force between the two houses on the ground was agreed on the formation of other committees such as the Commission services self-protection and the Commission and all committees that have been agreed upon, and I congratulate our people for the people of this agreement, which took place between the two chambers. "

In a question about the results of the agreement and unity between the two houses and its consequences on the Kurds, answered hami: "I expect the results of the agreement between the two will become clearer in the near future, and I hope of our people around the Kurdish Supreme council, and the protection of this Convention declared, which represents the unity of the sons of the Kurdish people in Western Kurdistan , because there are many who are hostile to the sons of the Kurdish people and not in its interest to unite the people of the Kurdish people in Western Kurdistan. "

And around the Turkish threats, said flesh: "We hear the Turkish threats under the pretext of the existence of the PKK in the territory of western Kurdistan, and will deal with any Turkish intervention in the region west of Kurdistan, the Kurds are an integral part of the Syrian Revolution and do not accept any interference by any party, especially the Turkish state, which argue arguments do not have any connection to the truth, and we will stand in the face of any attempt to intervene in the western Turkish Kurdistan, and the international side we will say to all the world that we as a people we can manage ourselves Kurds will not accept any interference by any party whatsoever. "

When asked about solutions to the Kurdish issue in the west of Kurdistan confirmed at this stage they are in the Kurdish Supreme council and we are integral part of Syria, and Syria, they are with establishing democratic civilian safeguard the rights of the Kurdish people and the demand of the Kurdish people of all parties and strength of democracy.

Regarding the impact of this Convention to the Kurdish street at this sensitive stage hami said: "Yes, the Kurdish people an influential force in the political equation, and reflective of our people in this unit that has been agreed upon."

Regarding the statements that were made by Hakim Bashar President of Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria, the KDP and the main partner of the National Council Kurdish told Anatolia Turkish on the delivery of the Syrian regime cities west of the Kurdistan Democratic Union Party, said hami: "I personally contacted hakim Bashar and he told me he did not made the statement, but the Anatolia news agency committed fraud translation, and for such a statement does not benefit the cause of our people fair and who make the remarks he is hostile to the issue of our fair, we are with the agreement of Hawler and we agreed not to use any party against the other in any form of publicity in the media or anywhere else".

http://www.pydrojava.net/ara/index.php? ... &Itemid=71

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 Vice-President of «coordinating body»: Any mistake in Qamishli may result in a conflict that is not encouraged, Deputy Chairman of the National Coordinating opposition in Syria, and the President of the Democratic Union Party, Salh said that the army is the free part of the revolution, and not a runner towards him, pointing out that the system will continue to practice until the end, and warning that any mistake in the Kurdish city of Qamishli may cause the conflict is not encouraged by all parties.

Interview:

The regime began to evacuate the Kurdish region, and the two chambers are based Kurdish fill the void, as it seems that he would not vacate the Qamishli peacefully, what is the view about what is going on?

Your say about the evacuation of the regime of the Kurdish region is not accurate, and is consistent with the propaganda launched by some parties. The regime does not want his desire to evacuate any area. It is true that there is fragility in the regime and its institutions, but nevertheless they do not evacuate any place voluntarily. Also, the two chambers do not fill the vaccum as you judge. Avoid these prejudices so that you will be realistic.

In reality it is as follows: the Kurdish people involved in the revolution before it broke out, but when it broke out in which participants remained the slogans and demands, and in a peaceful and democratic society is still as well. The regime and its tools to the Revolution tried to tighten the arms, violence, and succeeded in doing so, because the most deadly weapons and the means of the fiercest violence exists in the regime. What happened in the past few days is that the clashes between the regime forces and armed groups began to knock the doors of the Kurdish areas, especially in the kobani and Afrin. And their area so as not to become the scene of battles and cut and run ejected statesmen and Area Manager and other officials, the aim is to protect the people and the Kurdish areas of any attack.

The Qamishli situation is more sensitive to the diversity of its society of Kurds, Arabs and Chaldeans, and this requires more sensitivity, since any mistake could cause the conflict is not encouraged by all parties. Our description of what is happening but it is not recognizing nor liberation, but rather a natural result of the conflict, the more committed the murder and violence is also subject to corrosion, weakness and fatigue. The regime will continue to practice until the end of any destruction of Syria to end as well.

Forces that are involved in this process is a variety of Kurdish forces, what is the political project which will manage these areas?

What happened was an emergency circumstance requiring quick action to contain the situation and this is what happened. Now there is a Kurdish Supreme Council that has the authority which will decide what to do. The political project, there are points were agreed upon in the Declaration of Hawler agreement. A constitutional recognition of the existence of the Kurdish people and solve the Kurdish issue democratically.

In the Supreme Council, we can reach a standard format between the claims of the Board of the people of Western Kurdistan and asked by the National Council of Kurdish, there will not be any problem in this regard according to my conviction, everyone is demanding a solution within the unity of the Syrian territory, and that the projects proposed for the solution of the Kurdish issue in Syria points include many common ground can be taken to build a consensus. It is important to the unity of the Kurds in this crucial stage.


Any falls in the framework of the forces of order for the expulsion to Syria?, And what is your position free from the army?

Of course what happened is complementary to the Syrian revolution and as a result of the findings will eventually lead to the toppling of the regime. I think that the expulsion of the Baathists and the seizure of their headquarters is the support of the revolution can not be otherwise. Nor can we consider what happened to the check point in the factional or intolerant national. Heavily and blood being shed without any meaning must be the task of every human being feel his humanity. As for the Syrian army is the free part of the Syrian Revolution and do not have any animosity toward it, but we appreciate their role of what they are doing. However, there are many armed groups trying to impersonate this noble character, and we must differentiate between debased that exploits this honor for the purposes and other purposes, and tries to pass certain agendas under this name.


Western Kurdistan

Do you use the term to denote the Western Kurdistan to Kurdish areas in Syria, what is your definition of this term?

The term West Kurdistan is a geographical term which is not intended to any political connotations, it does not mean certain limits, does not mean separation or split, as we say the West Bank or East Bank, or East and West as well as such. And our definition of Western Kurdistan is the part that remained within the political boundaries of the State of Syria at the division of the region in the early twentieth century. It does not mean anything other than the reminder that there is a part of Kurdistan under Syrian sovereignty, territory and not future of Kurdish autonomy, and you can be considered as a cultural meaning.

And about the link between Western Kurdistan and Damascus or Syria, it is part of Syria as it is part of Kurdistan, Just as there are Kurds in Damascus, there are Arabs in the island and this is normal for the fatherland, and Arab on the island are diverse and mixed cultural welcome and form of richer culturally common to the Syrian people as a whole.

Did not raise any point of the day and even Kurdish closely related to Syria as a whole, and the majority of data and documents are related to the Kurdish claim hauled in Syria, what is your explanation?.

We believe that self-management to ensure the democratic Kurdish man who has free will. When conditions are appropriate for this free man because the decisions taken and implemented by his own will, be able to do miracles. That's why we're betting on this Kurdish Human free leads march of humanity, because once again as he led in the Neolithic period and beyond. Our mission is to provide the atmosphere and conditions for access to this man. We believe that the task of democratizing the Middle East rests with Kurdish rights, and then comes the other tasks, of course, not only in Syria but throughout the Middle East.

Background

Saleh was elected President of Democratic party in the fourth conference in September 2010. With the establishment of national coordinating body to the forces of democratic change in Damascus, which saleh contributed in creating it and was chosen vice-coordinator of the public body.

http://www.welati.net/nuce.php?ziman=ar ... e=3&kijan=

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Hi all!
Please note that West Kurdistan is connected to the sea through Jabal al-Akrad north of Latakia (not to be confused with the neighboring Kurddagh around Efrin). The narrow strip, south of Hatay province, in northwest Syria is inhabited by Kurds and Christians. It has a very important strategic position for Kurdistan.
Some maps for example:



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http://bas-news.net/Uploades/Pdf/10307.pdf

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Kobani today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOq9uti4bZY&feature=youtu.be&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1