Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

[jjmuneer]

This is 1994 all over again. I mean we always say " no internal divisions and bla bla bla", but we still continue to proceed with it.

[burnsss]

This is 1994 all over again. I mean we always say " no internal divisions and bla bla bla", but we still continue to proceed with it.

I think we need enemies to unite

[unitedkurdistan]

Kurds take control in west kurdistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkilYn71c4&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

[jjmuneer]

Kurds take control in west kurdistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkilYn71c4&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

That was epic. I wonder how many soldiers that was.

[RawandKurdistani]

Kurds take control in west kurdistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkilYn71c4&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I like that they shout Peshmerga

[Bestoun]

You guys shouldn't worry about the flags, Ala rengín is also used http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBDKrRWwY48&feature=youtu.be&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

, Just like unitedkurdistan said; Things like flags and other thing should be brought up after the liberation. Bijí Kurd u Kurdistan!

[Bestoun]

btw what is this saying for those Kurmanjí speakers, http://kurdi.onkurd.net/encumena-kurdi- ... rawestand/
has Kurdish Supreme Committee collapsed?

[Qonyeyi]

btw what is this saying for those Kurmanjí speakers, http://kurdi.onkurd.net/encumena-kurdi- ... rawestand/
has Kurdish Supreme Committee collapsed?

It seems the KNC in Kobani has stopped their co operation with PYD due to the steady formation of armed members in YPG. I am going to research if this is real news or a misunderstanding. Is this source usually to trust?

[Bestoun]

btw what is this saying for those Kurmanjí speakers, http://kurdi.onkurd.net/encumena-kurdi- ... rawestand/
has Kurdish Supreme Committee collapsed?

It seems the KNC in Kobani has stopped their co operation with PYD due to the steady formation of armed members in YPG. I am going to research if this is real news or a misunderstanding. Is this source usually to trust?

I don't know i found the source on twitter #twitterkurds

[Rando]

Turkey unlikely to push Confrontation with Syria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVlFXRy5F5c&feature=g-all-u&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

[Bahoz]

I think Kurds are playing smart regardless of PYD and KNC problems. We Kurds know that arabs and turks sunni will never recognize our rights! the same story with Saddam. We need to have the door open with Assad. at the end he is Alawi and he is creating the compelling event to justify either Independence country for Alawi people in Syria or semi-indpenedance state. One way to do that is to create opposition power to Sunni arabs in Syria where they are majority, this opposition power will include Alawi, Kurds, Durzi, and other little minorities like Assyrians..ect... This can't be done in one day! it needs time frame and certain situation! We all know that Baath party in Syria is dead now and has no impact! majority of Army commando-rs and generals are Alawis, they are the one that leading the army in this battle. They will fight until the Alawi state is ready to be self protected and the borders become clear!... this is not bad thing for us! it is good! and we would be encouraging it! We are part of the game and Kurds should be smart in playing this game! putting gerrila and peshmarge in front lines to fight the regime for sunni arabs would be the most stupid move from Kurds! we don't want untied Syria! we want fragile weak Syria so that we can have the power to defend our self! the same example of South Kurdistan! So if PYD has the doors open with Assad it doesn't mean they are working against Kurds, just like how PDK and PUK had and still have the door opened with Shiia to get rid of Saddam, this is pure politics game and the game rules can be always changed! just like how now South kurdistan leans toward Turkey more because Malaki is not being good and didn't do his part of the strategic agreement between Shiia and Kurds. please be open mind about how the situation is in West Kurdistan! it is not always as you think and want to be! and when I say ASSAD I don't necessarily mean the ASSAD himself. I mean the hidden Alawi leaders who have influence on people and who are leaders in their Alawi community! ASSAD used Baath party to control Syria and put his Alawi people in front and ahead of all others. so if we can benefit from him in any way we will do it! ...you know how bad are sunni arabs. i don't think you guys want see your kurdish people in west kurdistan being stuttered for being kurd and against arabs wish. lets read history more and judge carefully!

[Qonyeyi]

I think Kurds are playing smart regardless of PYD and KNC problems. We Kurds know that arabs and turks sunni will never recognize our rights! the same story with Saddam. We need to have the door open with Assad. at the end he is Alawi and he is creating the compelling event to justify either Independence country for Alawi people in Syria or semi-indpenedance state. One way to do that is to create opposition power to Sunni arabs in Syria where they are majority, this opposition power will include Alawi, Kurds, Durzi, and other little minorities like Assyrians..ect... This can't be done in one day! it needs time frame and certain situation! We all know that Baath party in Syria is dead now and has no impact! majority of Army commando-rs and generals are Alawis, they are the one that leading the army in this battle. They will fight until the Alawi state is ready to be self protected and the borders become clear!... this is not bad thing for us! it is good! and we would be encouraging it! We are part of the game and Kurds should be smart in playing this game! putting gerrila and peshmarge in front lines to fight the regime for sunni arabs would be the most stupid move from Kurds! we don't want untied Syria! we want fragile weak Syria so that we can have the power to defend our self! the same example of South Kurdistan! So if PYD has the doors open with Assad it doesn't mean they are working against Kurds, just like how PDK and PUK had and still have the door opened with Shiia to get rid of Saddam, this is pure politics game and the game rules can be always changed! just like how now South kurdistan leans toward Turkey more because Malaki is not being good and didn't do his part of the strategic agreement between Shiia and Kurds. please be open mind about how the situation is in West Kurdistan! it is not always as you think and want to be! and when I say ASSAD I don't necessarily mean the ASSAD himself. I mean the hidden Alawi leaders who have influence on people and who are leaders in their Alawi community! ASSAD used Baath party to control Syria and put his Alawi people in front and ahead of all others. so if we can benefit from him in any way we will do it! ...you know how bad are sunni arabs. i don't think you guys want see your kurdish people in west kurdistan being stuttered for being kurd and against arabs wish. lets read history more and judge carefully!

Exactly! And I think it is important to emphasize that PYD is not helping Assad, not are they fighting him. They stand neutral. This is the best position for Kurds.

[purearch72]

HPG is doing good by being neutral, but they need to let in peshmerga being trained in SK and KNC, so that they can handle anything coming from FSA or Assad.

[brendar]

An old joke goes, is someone tells you they understand Middle East politics, then it has not been explained to them properly.

[brendar]

Former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld famously referred to 'known unknowns' and 'unknown unknowns' in politics. As the situation in Iraq evolved into several civil wars between various groups, the US and its allies found themselves in the latter territory of 'unknown unknowns'. However, the situation in Iraq was less complex than what is going on in Syria. An interesting development has been the effect of the conflict on the Kurds in Syria.

Historically the Kurds faced repression from the Syrian regime. Kurds were denied Syrian citizenship in 1962 but this was changed in 2011 and they can now obtain Syrian citizenship. It is estimated that about 9 per cent of the population, around 2 million people, are Kurdish in Syria. Kurds were prevented from using their own language and Kurdish protests and celebration of their new year (Newroz) were suppressed by the Syrian military.

The regime held the Kurds under control with large number of troops being stationed in the Kurdish area. Kurds are mainly in the north western area adjoining Iraq. However the current conflict has created opportunities for them.

The intensity of the conflict in Syria meant that the regime has moved the military from the Kurdish areas to the fighting in Damascus and Aleppo. A consequence has been the Kurds are left to run their own area in a way similar to the Kurds in northern Iraq in 1992 after the no-fly zone was created.
Initially the Kurds in Iraq fought among themselves, but eventually a united Kurdish front was presented. That resulted in the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG), established after 2003 and now well entrenched. Kurdish is the main language in the KRG area of Iraq. The president of Iraq is a Kurd, and the new Iraqi passports have Kurdish, Arabic and English script. In the Kurdish parts of Syria, the Kurds are only just starting to set up control.

The growth of Kurdish autonomy has long been a desire of the Kurds, who are spread through Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran. It is estimated there are around 20 million who identify as Kurdish and this would make the Kurds the largest nationality without an independent homeland.

Iraq repressed the Kurds brutally under Saddam, and the gas attacks on Halabja by Saddam's regime were the first use of gas to defeat an uprising since the British did so in Iraq in the 1920s. With the establishment of the KRG, Kurds set up their own regional government and effectively were independent.
In Iran, the Kurds were suppressed by the regime and many fled Iran as refugees. The same happened in Syria. In Turkey, a long running war between the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) and the Turkish government left many dead and although the PKK leader Occalan is in prison, the PKK is still active. In fact, the PKK was known to have bases in the Kurdish areas of Syria as well as parts of Iraq.

Now, the Syrian regime is encouraging the PKK's opposition to the Turkish government as retaliation for the Turkish government's support of the Syrian opposition.
This is potentially a dangerous scenario where the Syrian regime is encouraging Kurdish separatists in Turkey, risking Turkish reprisals as happened in Iraq a few years ago when the Turkish military bombed suspected PKK bases in northern Iraq. Already there have been exchanges of fire across the border.

If it becomes more intense, the trigger for NATO intervention occurs because a NATO member, Turkey, will be defending itself against aggression and call on the other NATO powers to support it. This was the reason used for NATO involvement in Afghanistan, the attacks on one NATO member (the US) leading to NATO intervention.
NATO in Syria would not be favourably viewed by Russia, which already sees NATO encroaching on traditional areas of Russia's sphere of interest in eastern Europe and in Georgia. Syria is a long term Russian ally and Russia is unlikely to dump such a loyal ally especially to NATO.

Russia has a naval base in Syria. While Russia is unlikely to use military power against a member of NATO, Turkey, the mere prospect may be enough to prevent the conflict spreading from Syria to Turkey. But the situation in Lebanon is not so secure.

While the conflict continues in other parts of Syria, the Kurds are establishing their own armed security in their areas. Previously the Syrian regime would have suppressed this ruthlessly, but the Assad regime has more pressing concerns in Aleppo and Damascus from the various rebel groups. It is ironic that a group that potentially benefits from the Arab Spring are not Arabs, but Kurds.

An old joke goes, is someone tells you they understand Middle East politics, then it has not been explained to them properly. The unknown unknowns are still considerable as the Syrian conflict continues to become more complex and even more brutal.

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=33424