brendar wrote:Turkish troops fired across the Syrian border on Tuesday, killing a member of a Kurdish militia and wounding two others in the first such fatal shooting at the Turkish frontier, a watchdog reported.
"The three Kurds, members of a Kurdish militia hostile to the Damascus regime but also wary of the rebellion, were patrolling the border in [Syria's] Hasaka province when they were hit by Turkish army fire from the other side," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.
"This was the first fatal shooting at the Turkish border," he added.
The incident occurred in in the Derbassiyeh region of the northwest province of Hasaka, according to the Britain-based Observatory.
The monitoring group said that the Kurds were members of the YPG, or "units for the protection of the people," a militia close to the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD).
Ankara has accused the group of being a front for the outlawed Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK), which the United States has warned should be denied a safe haven in the region.
Members of Syria's more than two million Kurdish minority have largely stayed out of the conflict roiling the country but many participated in anti-regime protests that erupted in March last year.
They have also distanced themselves from the rebel Free Syrian Army, which is fighting President Bashar al-Assad's forces, fuelling suspicions among some of collusion with the regime.
Ankara has accused its former ally Damascus of granting swathes of territory in northern Syria, including on the border, to the PYD as a buffer zone.
Despite distrust between the traditional Kurdish parties in Syria, they signed an agreement in July to unify their ranks.
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDe ... ?ID=442161


brendar wrote:Abdullah Ocalan: Syrian Kurds Deserve Democracy, Nobody Should Interfere in Their Affairs
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region -- The brother of Abdullah Ocalan, the jailed leader of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), said that his health is in good condition but he is being kept in a narrow cell and has grown a long beard.
Speaking to Rudaw, Mehmet Ocalan rejected reports by the Turkish media that his brother had refused to meet lawyers and family members.
Mehmet visited the PKK leader on Sept. 21. The last time Ocalan met with his lawyers was in July 2011, and he has not been also allowed visits from his family members for almost a year.
Rudaw conducted an interview with Mehmet Ocalan over the phone.
Rudaw: No one has been allowed to visit Ocalan for a year. How did the Turkish government allow you to meet with him?
Mehmet Ocalan: It was not the first visit for us. It was the second time in 14 months that we visited Ocalan, but this time around he was upset that we visited. He told us, “What you did is not right. You should not have visited me because they have not allowed my lawyers to visit for 14 months and you should have not visited either.”
Rudaw: When did you visit him?
Mehmet Ocalan: Pardon me, I cannot tell you when. But the Turkish government has not allowed his lawyers to visit him. They only let me meet the leader (Abdullah Ocalan) twice.
Rudaw: It has been said that Ocalan was poisoned and that he is not in good health.
Mehmet Ocalan: No, his health is not bad, but he has grown a long beard and his beard, mustache and hair were all mixed together. His hair and mustache have grown grey. His cell is very small and one cannot live there even for one month. Unfortunately, his place is very bad.
Rudaw: How much time did you spend with him?
Mehmet Ocalan: At first, they told us that we could stay longer but that didn’t last long. After 30 or 40 minutes, they said the time was up.
Rudaw: What did he think of the current clashes between the PKK and the Turkish military?
Mehmet Ocalan: Leader Ocalan said to let the war end and that no guerilla or Turkish soldier should be killed. He said the problems need to be resolved and nobody should try to cheat the other side. Leader Ocalan believes that if the Kurdish issue ends, then bloodshed will end too. He said that if Turkey continues fighting, it will face a very grim future. But if Turkey wants to, it can resolve the Kurdish issue through democratic means.
Rudaw: What did he think of the situation in Syria and Western (Syrian) Kurdistan?
Mehmet Ocalan: President Ocalan said that if Turkey adapts to the project that is being implemented in Western Kurdistan, then it will not have any problems in the future. But if Turkey does not adapt to the Kurdish people in Western Kurdistan, then it will be making a mistake and run into problems.
Rudaw: How did he talk about the future of Western Kurdistan?
Mehmet Ocalan: He said that the Kurds in Western Kurdistan deserve democracy and nobody should interfere in their affairs. He said, “We do not want Syria to be divided,” and that Turkey should not fear that.
Rudaw: Did he have any demands of the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP)?
Mehmet Ocalan: He asked the BDP to organize large-scale activities, not small ones. For instance, if they stage demonstrations, they should be large ones and not limited. But the activities must be restrained and in line with democratic methods.
http://www.rudaw.net/english/interview/5274.html


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Qonyeyi wrote:When you take things out like context like Cewlik does, you can easily make Ocalan a villain to the Kurdish cause. But let it be clear to everyone that his intentions are good as shown above in the full version ( well not exactly full version, but almost)


Cewlik wrote:Qonyeyi wrote:When you take things out like context like Cewlik does, you can easily make Ocalan a villain to the Kurdish cause. But let it be clear to everyone that his intentions are good as shown above in the full version ( well not exactly full version, but almost)
Wow you are right, now we should forget Kurdistan and fight only for him only because he say that.
You say that it is out of context what I say, but you with your apoisim are the best example for what I say.

Qonyeyi wrote:Your only intention with taking things out of context is to spread hatred on Apo and Apocis. You should be ashamed. You are not only lying to us, but you are also lying to yourself.


RawandKurdistani wrote:brendar wrote:Turkish troops fired across the Syrian border on Tuesday, killing a member of a Kurdish militia and wounding two others in the first such fatal shooting at the Turkish frontier, a watchdog reported.
"The three Kurds, members of a Kurdish militia hostile to the Damascus regime but also wary of the rebellion, were patrolling the border in [Syria's] Hasaka province when they were hit by Turkish army fire from the other side," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.
"This was the first fatal shooting at the Turkish border," he added.
The incident occurred in in the Derbassiyeh region of the northwest province of Hasaka, according to the Britain-based Observatory.
The monitoring group said that the Kurds were members of the YPG, or "units for the protection of the people," a militia close to the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD).
Ankara has accused the group of being a front for the outlawed Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK), which the United States has warned should be denied a safe haven in the region.
Members of Syria's more than two million Kurdish minority have largely stayed out of the conflict roiling the country but many participated in anti-regime protests that erupted in March last year.
They have also distanced themselves from the rebel Free Syrian Army, which is fighting President Bashar al-Assad's forces, fuelling suspicions among some of collusion with the regime.
Ankara has accused its former ally Damascus of granting swathes of territory in northern Syria, including on the border, to the PYD as a buffer zone.
Despite distrust between the traditional Kurdish parties in Syria, they signed an agreement in July to unify their ranks.
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDe ... ?ID=442161
Turks are indeed sick sub-humans!

alan131210 wrote:RawandKurdistani wrote:brendar wrote:Turkish troops fired across the Syrian border on Tuesday, killing a member of a Kurdish militia and wounding two others in the first such fatal shooting at the Turkish frontier, a watchdog reported.
"The three Kurds, members of a Kurdish militia hostile to the Damascus regime but also wary of the rebellion, were patrolling the border in [Syria's] Hasaka province when they were hit by Turkish army fire from the other side," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.
"This was the first fatal shooting at the Turkish border," he added.
The incident occurred in in the Derbassiyeh region of the northwest province of Hasaka, according to the Britain-based Observatory.
The monitoring group said that the Kurds were members of the YPG, or "units for the protection of the people," a militia close to the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD).
Ankara has accused the group of being a front for the outlawed Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK), which the United States has warned should be denied a safe haven in the region.
Members of Syria's more than two million Kurdish minority have largely stayed out of the conflict roiling the country but many participated in anti-regime protests that erupted in March last year.
They have also distanced themselves from the rebel Free Syrian Army, which is fighting President Bashar al-Assad's forces, fuelling suspicions among some of collusion with the regime.
Ankara has accused its former ally Damascus of granting swathes of territory in northern Syria, including on the border, to the PYD as a buffer zone.
Despite distrust between the traditional Kurdish parties in Syria, they signed an agreement in July to unify their ranks.
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDe ... ?ID=442161
Turks are indeed sick sub-humans!
they want war from WK front as well ? they shall get it soon.








Bahoz wrote:hevalen heja,
just to share with you what I think! coming days/months are going to be hard and bloody for Kurds in west! neither the regime or opposition or surrounding countries are going to recognize Kurdish rights in West. the Kurds are stepping big jumps toward obtaining full control of their land in West although of big barriers and problems. Please don't look at small stuff that we hear here and there! no body said the road is clear! our enemies are everywhere and among us!
We are getting stronger in West, I thought it would be dream to see the school that forced me to learn arabic oneday when i was kid is now 100% teaching in Kurdish language! and I see now my nieces and nephews are learning in Kurdish!
I feel we are going to pass that humps and bumps in the journey! we might pay big price but no body said freedom is for free.




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